<< <i>I think you hit the nail right on the head. Whatever the reason they are a good coin to have. >>
There's no doubt that many collectors are always going to consider these coins intentional and want them on that basis. Even among other collectors many will desire specimens be- cause of their noteriety or scarcity. >>
ya got lucky this time.......your message could have cost you.
Here are my images of the die-damaged nickel Mike wrote about...I did these with a scanner before I got my camera, so I apologize for the poor quality. They do show the damage well, though...
--Christian
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
Thanks to Errormaven (Mike) for sending an example of the 2000-D nickel. There is no argument that it is made by a piece of scrap being struck into both die faces.
This shows what I was trying to explain. On the 2000-D nickel, the scrap that was struck into the die was distorted into the E in E PLURIBUS UNUM. This shows that even though the scrap was strong enough to make a mark on the die (having nowhere else to go between the dies), it was thin enough to deform into the recesses of the die.
On the WI Extra Leaf the area of overlap of the curve and the design shows no distortion into the die where it overlaps the design (black arrow).
The green arrow shows the metal movement on the die face -this is from something impacting the die and pushing up the metal.
The white arrows show the repeating mark on the object that caused the two marks.
Being that the curve did not distort into the recesses of the die, whatever made the marks must have been much harder than the die, or the die was much softer.
Nice photo of the nickel die dent, Rick. It nicely shows the central rib. I'm not sure what the central, longitudinal rib might represent, but then again, I have no idea what made the entire dent.
Mike Diamond is an error coin writer and researcher. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those held by any organization I am a member of.
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
You have seen the ultra closeups..but look at a normal photo I made of the one I own...The fact that it looks exactly like an extra leaf is hard to ignore....
Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
Thanks Frank for the nice photo of a Wisconsin Extra Low Leaf State Quarter Variety. I beleive that sooner rather than later, the majority of open minded coin experts and dealers will embrace these rare coins for the scarce varieties that they truly are !! It will be very interesting to hear Chris and Rick's presentation concerning the origin of the coins at the ANA show in Milwaukee, WI in August !! I trust that Arnie Margolis will step up and accept Rick Snow's invitation to be present at that very important seminar !!
Frank, I see that you are from Texas? Are you located in a part of Texas where these rare coins were distributed by the San Antonio Branch of the Federal Reserve back in December, 2004 ?
Thanks again for the great photo and the common sense approach to these varieties !! Have a great day collecting coins !! Mark.
Frank, I see that you are from Texas? Are you located in a part of Texas where these rare coins were distributed by the San Antonio Branch of the Federal Reserve back in December, 2004 ?
Thanks again for the great photo and the common sense approach to these varieties !! Have a great day collecting coins !! Mark. >>
I am in Fort Worth, but I bought the coin on ebay for $150 as soon as they started getting slabbed.
Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
Comments
<< <i>100 (I always wanted to do that.
<< <i>I think you hit the nail right on the head. Whatever the reason they are a good coin to have. >>
There's no doubt that many collectors are always going to consider these coins intentional
and want them on that basis. Even among other collectors many will desire specimens be-
cause of their noteriety or scarcity. >>
ya got lucky this time.......your message could have cost you.
--Christian
Both images were taken at the same magnification.
Thanks to Errormaven (Mike) for sending an example of the 2000-D nickel. There is no argument that it is made by a piece of scrap being struck into both die faces.
This shows what I was trying to explain. On the 2000-D nickel, the scrap that was struck into the die was distorted into the E in E PLURIBUS UNUM. This shows that even though the scrap was strong enough to make a mark on the die (having nowhere else to go between the dies), it was thin enough to deform into the recesses of the die.
On the WI Extra Leaf the area of overlap of the curve and the design shows no distortion into the die where it overlaps the design (black arrow).
The green arrow shows the metal movement on the die face -this is from something impacting the die and pushing up the metal.
The white arrows show the repeating mark on the object that caused the two marks.
Being that the curve did not distort into the recesses of the die, whatever made the marks must have been much harder than the die, or the die was much softer.
--Christian
it looks exactly like an extra leaf is hard to ignore....
Frank, I see that you are from Texas? Are you located in a part of Texas where these rare coins were distributed by the San Antonio Branch of the Federal Reserve back in December, 2004 ?
Thanks again for the great photo and the common sense approach to these varieties !! Have a great day collecting coins !! Mark.
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Frank, I see that you are from Texas? Are you located in a part of Texas where these rare coins were distributed by the San Antonio Branch of the Federal Reserve back in December, 2004 ?
Thanks again for the great photo and the common sense approach to these varieties !! Have a great day collecting coins !! Mark. >>
I am in Fort Worth, but I bought the coin on ebay for $150 as soon as they started getting slabbed.