Bonds hits 2 dingers so far
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Hooray for Bonds
Not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing.
Agree though that Bonds was a HOFer before he started juicing around 1999. I'd be inclined to vote him in to the Hall for that reason. I'd vote no on both McGwire or Sosa though.
Hooray for Bonds
The true all-time HR king, Hammerin' Hank would disagree.
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You're kidding right? I guess you think O.J. is innocent too because he wasn't convicted, right?
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<< <i>Is there any other athlete in recent time that we loved to hate as much? >>
My reaction to each Bonds homer is akin to my feeling when I see a dead dog on the side of the road - it is tragic and gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach; there is no "love" involved between Barry Bonds and any fan of baseball. It will be an occasion for mourning, and nothing else, when this complete waste of a human being breaks Aaron's record.
I think the best thing right now would be for some freak fan to jump on his back and break it or something along those lines, so he has no way of breaking the record. Maybe that fat guy from NY?
Jay
McGwire hit 49 home runs his rookie year when he was "skinny" by all accounts. Bonds hit 46 home runs in 1993 (sandwiched between seasons of 34 and 37) They were home run hitters before all of this drug talk hit.
Like a sales guy would say no to a magic pill that will close 5 more leads a day and is allowed by their employer (and legal) you better believe the majority will swallow that baby.
Rough analogy, but you get the idea
McGwire or Sosa aren't even worth talking about as far as I'm concerned. McGwire was a one-dimensial hitter anyway, and a below average fielder and if not for steroids, he'd have the career of Rob Deer.
Sosa is a liar and a cheater, too. Funny how he learned to speak English again after that pathetic performance on Capitol Hill. At least he wasn't as stupid as Palmiero, I'll say that for him at least.
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I'm sure he did, I don't see how anyone on planet Earth could possibly claim otherwise. I'm not really that concerned with when and where, only that he is a dirtbag cheater, a very talented one to be sure, but a dirtbag cheater nevertheless and it's a shame that a class act like Hank Aaron will have his legitimate record broken by this jerk.
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<< <i>So if you are convinced Bonds did 'roids..the question is this. When did he start and when did he stop? >>
And how many other players (both position and pitchers) were using steriods at the same time?
Steve
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Steriods, good workout program, performance enhancers - you be the judge
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Frankly I couldn't care less if he breaks the record or not.
I do agree with you there at least. Let's hope he gets indicted right after HR 754!
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Steve
"The answer was in the Patriots eyes. Gone were the swagger and c0ck sure smirks, replaced by downcast eyes and heads in hands. For his poise and leadership Eli Manning was named the game's MVP. The 2007 Giants were never perfect nor meant to be. They were fighters, scrappers....now they could be called something else, World Champions."
<< <i>I think somehow he has managed to plant a huge time-released patch of human growth hormone in that big head of his, something like a niocotine patch. >>
The gland in that dome is probably producing enough to distribute league wide.
The only consolation is that his pea sized testicles are now bouncing around in his cranium also.
Scratch the record and let Hank's rest in peace until a legitimate hitter comes along.
eddye
<< <i>First off, Bonds admitted he used steroids so that should not be in doubt. What's more, it seems pretty obvious that he's lying about the fact that he didn't know what it was.
Having said that, he is clearly a HOF caliber player. McGwire benefitted fro steroids, as did Sosa IMO.
As for Bonds, it's not just the steroids that bother me, which I don't think he would be breaking Aaron's record without, it's that he is one of the biggest jerks to have ever played in the past few decades. It's really difficult for fans to root for a guy who is SO arrogant, aloof, and has a sense that he is better than anyone on earth. I know many lifelong Giants fans who despise the team for Bonds alone. That's the kind of guy he is. He's one of those people who want all of the benefits of being a star player and none of the responsibilities. Flat out, as DA alluded to, he is just a waste of a human being IMO. >>
When did he admit he used? I agree he knew/knows everything that goes in his body, but I was not aware he admitted usage. As I mentioned earlier Bonds hit 46 dingers in 1993 and was a yard threat back then. The question begs - When did he use and when did he stop? He had 26 home runs last year at 42 and in limited play and I do not think he was using whatever at that stage.
I agree his is a pompous a-hole, but he is a Hall of Famer beyond this crap. Maybe that is what we are all saying - I just like to type.
People love to be lied too, and love to pretend the god they worship is something other than a fake. The Pete Rose supporters swore up and down, he never betted on his own team. Raffy swore " I can't make it any more clearer". Hell , even Bill Clinton admitted smoking pot but didn't inhale. Liars love liars and cheaters love cheaters.
I think we ought to shop the ovaltine theory around. Lets give the Barry supporters another pile of sh**t that they can believe in , its all they can hold on too. One of the great liberal mantras is " Its possible to pick up a turd by the clean end "
There's no doubt that Bonds was a HOFer before he started using steroids, and that he hit alot of homers before he started using. The thing that steroids helped him do, though, was whack the ball with more power at an age where players' skills should be declining, not getting better. There's no doubt that without the help of steroids that he would not have hit nearly as many homers as he did after 1999 or so. Lord knows how many of those homers he hit while artifically enhanced would have been fly ball outs.
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<< <i>Is there any other athlete in recent time that we loved to hate as much? >>
My reaction to each Bonds homer is akin to my feeling when I see a dead dog on the side of the road - it is tragic and gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach; there is no "love" involved between Barry Bonds and any fan of baseball. It will be an occasion for mourning, and nothing else, when this complete waste of a human being breaks Aaron's record. >>
Agreed.
It was a dagger in my heat to look at McGwire during the congressional hearings. He looked like, well he looked bad, and so quickly after retiring.
Remember Lyle Alzado, dying of brain cancer 10 years after retiring, saying it was all from the juice. Bonds is trading his life, his future life for the glory of the now.