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Brady Quinn says he should be #1 in the NFL draft

The guy has a got quite an ego that is for sure. image



SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- Brady Quinn already has taken a down-and-out football team and turned it around. He figures he can do it again.

That's why the Notre Dame quarterback believes he is highly qualified to immediately help a troubled NFL franchise -- and why he should be the first Fighting Irish player taken with the opening pick in the NFL draft in 35 years.




I've been through the adversity. I've gone through losing seasons. I know what it feels like to lose, but I know what it feels like to win," he said. "I know what it's like to go through that transition."

Quinn didn't say it, but he also knows what it's like to try to win when not all the pieces are in place. Quinn played on an Irish team that didn't have overpowering offensive lines and its defense was average at best.

Critics say Quinn couldn't win big games, but it's hard to beat Michigan, Southern Cal or LSU when the three scored an average of 44 points against the Irish last season.

"When Peyton Manning came out, people said he couldn't win the big one, he couldn't beat Florida," said Gil Brandt, an analyst for NFL.com, who was vice president of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys from 1960-89. "People say the same thing about Brady Quinn. I disagree with all that. I think if it wasn't for Brady and his production, Notre Dame never would have been there playing LSU and they wouldn't have been playing in a game as big as the USC game was."

So the question facing NFL teams looking to use an early first-round draft pick on a quarterback is: Do you prefer Quinn or LSU's JaMarcus Russell?

Quinn was a four-year starter who passed for 11,762 yards and led his team to a 29-18 record, including 19-6 over his final two seasons. Russell was a two-year starter who threw for 6,525 yards and led his team to a 25-4 record.

Many drafts observers believe Quinn is more polished, but Russell might have more potential. Quinn states flatly that he is the better choice.

"JaMarcus obviously is a big kid with a strong arm. But I'm a big kid with a strong arm and much more," he said. "I'm not as big as him. I'm a little leaner. But I've played four years, started the past four years and been through a lot."

The stakes are high. NFL draft history is littered with failed college quarterbacks, such as Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Todd Marinovich, Rick Mirer, Joey Harrington and others. But Brandt believes Quinn will succeed.

"I think the guy is a polished, mature individual that knows where he's going and knows how he's going to get there," he said.

Irish coach Charlie Weis, who concedes he is biased, said if he were an NFL head coach he would want Quinn on his team, saying he has that special "it" leaders have.

"I think that everything about him points to him being a successful quarterback in the NFL. The way he carries himself on and off the field, his athletic ability, his moxie, his leadership. That 'it' that certain people have, well he has it," he said. "I'm a big Brady Quinn fan."

Notre Dame hasn't produced a standout NFL quarterback since Joe Montana was taken by San Francisco in the third round of the 1979 draft. Steve Beuerlein, taken by the Raiders in the fourth round in 1987, had one Pro Bowl season with Carolina 12 years later. Mirer was the second pick overall in 1993 by Seattle and had a good rookie year, but he eventually became a journeyman.

Brandt said part of the problem is Notre Dame's quarterbacks tend to have inflated value because of the media spotlight on the school.

"Beano Cook created Ron Powlus because when he played there as a freshman he was going to be the Heisman Trophy winner for two years and so forth," he said. "I think that probably some of the quarterbacks they've had there were probably overrated. They probably weren't as good as people thought."

Another problem, he said, is that for years the Irish ran an option-oriented offense that didn't prepare players as well for the NFL.

Powlus, who is now the Irish quarterbacks coach after two years as director of personnel development, agrees, crediting the pro-style offense Weis brought to Notre Dame from New England.

"Every guy on our football team is more prepared for the NFL than a lot of other places because of coach Weis," he said.

Quinn, who also ran the West Coast offense for two years under Tyrone Willingham, says playing for Weis was an "internship" that taught him how to prepare for a game, how to deal with a head coach and what an NFL coach will expect from him.

"Every step of the way, Notre Dame has prepared me better than I think I would have been prepared at any other university," he said.

Quinn, who got a degree in December in finance and political science, has expressed frustration about reports of his draft status moving up or down. But more frustrating is not knowing where he will end up.

"I'll sit down and think, 'I don't have a clue where I'm going to live.' I'm one of those guys who like to plan ahead, so it's kind of hard," he said.

Weis doesn't know either, but he's confident Quinn will go early in the draft because he's ready to play early.

"I think that's significant. This is the day of free agency. You no longer have the luxury of taking someone that high in the draft and sitting there for a few years while you're waiting for them to get ready to play," he said. "You'd better be able to put them in there and play them."


Comments

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like his confidence but I think Russell will end up being a better QB.
  • He will end up being nothing more than a journeyman QB if that in the NFL.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"...but I know what it feels like to win," [Quinn] said. >>

    Except the big ones against the best opponents. image
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    I see him going in position 3-5 in the first round.
  • If I had to take Russell or Quinn I would take Quinn. Russell may be a physical freak, but he really only started one year in college.

    That said, I would not take either one of these guys as I believe they both will be servicable back-ups with a few years as a starter sprinkled in, but they are not franchise players
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Sorry if I missed it but where does Brady even imply he should go first?
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I think Mirer..... er, I mean Quinn will be an average NFL QB. Taking a QB or RB high in this draft is a bad idea. Last year was the time to do that.

    Lee
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry if I missed it but where does Brady even imply he should go first? >>

    The closest he came was the implication that he should be drafted over JaMarcus Russell.
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    First four as I see it:

    #1 Russell
    #2 Johnson (latest rumors going around are the Lions will draft and then trade him)
    #3 Quinn
    #4 Peterson
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    The Raiders should have kept Art Shell and Aaron Brooks because gambling is still legal in Vegas and I'd like to buy a Dodge Viper.

    Lee
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Raiders should have kept Art Shell and Aaron Brooks because gambling is still legal in Vegas and I'd like to buy a Dodge Viper.

    Lee >>



    image

    Good times image

    Don't worry, there will be others. Just hopefully not the Texans image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Also good for gambling right now- Grady Little if the Dodgers make the playoffs, Norv Turner, The Joe Gibbs/Jason Campbell combo, and any team in the NBA that has a shot at the number one pick.

    Lee
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The agents must be advising their clients to act this way. Frankly, in recent years it seems the more these higher draft picks brag, the higher is their initial NFL contract - so they're gonna keep on bragging.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I read the article in the local paper and its unbecoming. My guess is he did it for purposes of marketing himself not for the draft but for product endorsements. $$$$$$$$$$
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Crapshoot at best between Russell and Quinn. One is more polished (and probably coached more in the pro style), one has better speed and arm strength. Whomever goes to the Raiders is probably doomed to not meet expectations unless the O line gets a heckuva lot better (and the run game). Ask David Carr if no O line makes a difference.

    Quinn put up an awful lot of offense the last 2 years (and shouldn't be penalized for the atrocious ND defense failing to keep their end of the bargain).

    All that said, I prefer Quinn - but only marginally.

    Mike
    Bosox1976
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