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LIONEL CARTER COLLECTION: I'M SPEECHLESS

SoonerCowboySoonerCowboy Posts: 1,179
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Look at this:
Dimaggio

OR THIS!!!!!:
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTLE!!!!!!!

ALL OF HIS AUCTIONS:
OH MY GOD
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW
  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    Carter has the best collection in the world.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Carter has the best collection in the world. >>



    Had.

    Funny, I've never even heard of this guy. I thought I'd heard of all the bigtime collectors.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • SoonerCowboySoonerCowboy Posts: 1,179
    I wonder if he's interested in adopting some grandkids. I'm first.
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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    I just soiled myself, how embarrasing
  • asphaltman76asphaltman76 Posts: 765
    He had one of the best collections...

    He is about 90 years old, and was robbed a few months back and decided it just was too dangerous for him now to have this type of collection in his home. He really didn't want to part with the cards. He had so many T206's that were PSA 8 and 9 material it is crazy.

    The sad part is a guy 90 years old that has had these cards since he was a kid can't even keep them anymore because he has to worry about some moron robbing him. He stated he doesn't even care about the money...what is he going to do with the money at this point?
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    The sad part is a guy 90 years old that has had these cards since he was a kid can't even keep them anymore because he has to worry about some moron robbing him. He stated he doesn't even care about the money...what is he going to do with the money at this point? >>



    Playing devil's advocate -- what was he going to do with the cards...? Take them to the grave?

    I'm sure he doesn't care about the money -- but at least being an astute collector, he can make sure that they are divested responsibly, instead of leaving that task to the executor of his will, who may not be as knowledgable about the hobby.

    I would be very happy to keep my collection for another 60 years (I'm 30...), but a) I don't collect for the money and b) I don't want to die without a set plan in place for divesting the cards, if I don't take care of it before that point....
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazing collection! Hard to describe just HOW amazing. Nice prizes for the lucky winners.
  • cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257 ✭
    HOLY CRAP!!! Those are the two coolest cards I have ever seen (I know that's not saying much but you know what I mean image). I bet Mr. Carter could tell some stories. And I would listen intently to everything he said.

    Chris
    Chris
    My small collection
    Want List:
    '61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
    Cardinal T206 cards
    Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
  • asphaltman76asphaltman76 Posts: 765
    Here is a link to the video of Mr. Carter....worth watching IMO.

    Lionel Carter TV spot
  • SoutherncardsSoutherncards Posts: 1,384 ✭✭
    Look at all those beautiful cards in those beautiful SGC slabs.....


    Guess the finest collection in the world was graded by SGC.......hhhmmmm
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Look at all those beautiful cards in those beautiful SGC slabs.....


    Guess the finest collection in the world was graded by SGC.......hhhmmmm >>



    I wonder if he graded them or if Mastro graded them. I think Mastro usually goes with SGC unless the consignor requests PSA or GAI. I notice most of his collection shown in the news story was raw, which tells me he wasn't much interested in grading his collection. I wonder how many other raw collections are sitting out there waiting to be found.
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    I believe that this is just one of many auctions Mastro will run of the Carter Collection.
    This is truly one of the greatest collections ever assembled.
    Thank you Mr.Carter for sharing these Beautiful gems and your life's passion with us.
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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look closer, the serial numbers of the Mantle and Dimaggio are very close together. This leads me to believe more strongly that Mastro submitted the cards. The complete auction listing link didn't work and I couldn't get a proper listing searching by his name. Are any raw cards being sold from his collection?
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    From what I know he had most of his cards in photo albums.
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  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963


    << <i>Here is a link to the video of Mr. Carter....worth watching IMO.

    Lionel Carter TV spot >>



    Seems like a heck of a nice gentleman, too.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Look at all those beautiful cards in those beautiful SGC slabs.....


    Guess the finest collection in the world was graded by SGC.......hhhmmmm >>



    I wonder if he graded them or if Mastro graded them. I think Mastro usually goes with SGC unless the consignor requests PSA or GAI. I notice most of his collection shown in the news story was raw, which tells me he wasn't much interested in grading his collection. I wonder how many other raw collections are sitting out there waiting to be found. >>



    Everyone of his cards were raw until Mastro had them graded. He had all his card mounted in leather bound albums, (not glued, just cornered mounted). He was very, and I mean very picky about each and every card in his collection. He only looked for and collected the highest grade possible, long before anyone knew about high graade. Centering, corners, registry all had to be perfect or he didn't add it to his collection. Bill Mastro as a teenage once send him a card he needed. Bill was so proud to find a card that he could give him. Lionel sent it back and politely told him it didn't meet up to his standards. A true Icon of the hobby and I don't use that word loosely. He aquired 2 of his Lajoies from Jefferson Burdick himself. Seems Jefferson was pissed and sent 10 letters to Goudey and received 10 Lajoies in response. burdick, knowing how particular Lionel was about his cards, sent the 2 best to Carter. If oyu see the video his T206's look so perfect you would swear they are reprints. Page after page of beauty. It's a shame it cannot remain as 1 collection, but with the estimate of 2 million or so, I guess it will be scattered. At least his name will be forever linked with the cards, thanks to SGC.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • VolverVolver Posts: 753
    Mr. Carter seems upset letting these cards go....I feel bad for him. What a great passion he clearly his for the hobby. He is collector we should all strive to be... no grading, no greed just keeping them in a binder and pulling them out to look at whenever he wants

    Thanks for sharing
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    should i pay somebody to look at those pix again?

    kind of feel i should be paying to view them....

    en fuego

    julen
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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    Shame, if he would have had them graded, at least the police would have a serial number to look for.

    I guess unless the thief was smart enough to crack it and resubmit for another grade. Thiefs are so.... god that pisses me off
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  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shame, if he would have had them graded, at least the police would have a serial number to look for.

    I guess unless the thief was smart enough to crack it and resubmit for another grade. Thiefs are so.... god that pisses me off >>



    Yea I guess. But he would have had to share them with the world eventually. His real passion was to invite the neighborhood kids over to share them with them. But the collection was so expensive that he couldn't do that. image. A wiser man than me said, ( I think it is Jay Wolt) .
    "We don't own these cards. We are just holding them for awhile."
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • LWMMLWMM Posts: 471 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Shame, if he would have had them graded, at least the police would have a serial number to look for.

    I guess unless the thief was smart enough to crack it and resubmit for another grade. Thiefs are so.... god that pisses me off >>



    Yea I guess. But he would have had to share them with the world eventually. His real passion was to invite the neighborhood kids over to share them with them. But the collection was so expensive that he couldn't do that. image. A wiser man than me said, ( I think it is Jay Wolt) .
    "We don't own these cards. We are just holding them for awhile." >>



    My understanding was that the cards were found?
    image
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  • artimusartimus Posts: 684 ✭
    4.2 million plus so far....holy crap!
  • MantleMarisFordBerraMantleMarisFordBerra Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭
    Sad he has to get rid of them for fear of his own safety. You cuold just see his heart break when he was saying how he thought he'd have them till the day he died. Oh, and the $80,000 estimate on the Mantle? Fugettaboutit...it'll go for WAAAAAAAY more than that. One of the 2 nicest? WOW! A TON of great cards....
  • martyogelviemartyogelvie Posts: 86
    Only 1 word to describe this collection;
    Unbelievable!

    I like the fact that SGC put (Lionel Carter's Collection) on their tags. That's a nice touch!

    When collector's begin to throw the term 'backbone of the hobby' around, they need start right here with Mr. Carter!
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Wow.

    Homeboy is gonna get paid and his collection is well worth it.

    Thanks for sharing image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • sayheykid54sayheykid54 Posts: 779 ✭✭
    Great cards!! Although I hate it when a submitter personalizes the flip with his/her name.
  • HockeyAutoCollectorHockeyAutoCollector Posts: 273


    << <i>Great cards!! Although I hate it when a submitter personalizes the flip with his/her name. >>



    I think that was Mastros idea, at least I believe that is what I read.
    Thanks
    Sean

    Always Looking for vintage hockey autographs

    The Broderick Collection
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496
    That's a good name to be associated with though, not some joe blow from timbuktu , rather one of the greatest collectors ever.
  • PuertoRicanFogBankPuertoRicanFogBank Posts: 200
    This thief, if caught, should be shot right between the running lights.

    Beautiful collection.

    Great story.
    NewJerseyMeatHook II
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    The Mr. X Collection was the best pedigree ever in Sportscards.
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  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Mr. X Collection was the best pedigree ever in Sportscards. >>




    LOL


    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    They're impressive, but too bad they're in SGC slabs. That kind of takes away from the card in my opinion. Talk about a dream collection...
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They're impressive, but too bad they're in SGC slabs. That kind of takes away from the card in my opinion. Talk about a dream collection... >>



    HUH?!
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    I just look at SGC the same as BCCG or GEM or any other third-rate grading company. I'm only into PSA. Just my opinion though, the cards themselves are to die for!
  • VolverVolver Posts: 753
    I think the SGC are great slabs for vintage cards, but if they could only imrove the font it may present a more attractive presentation. The font looks like a typewriter from the 70's.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just look at SGC the same as BCCG or GEM or any other third-rate grading company. I'm only into PSA. Just my opinion though, the cards themselves are to die for! >>



    You would find some exceptionally strong disagreement from vintage card collectors to that statement. A majority of them prefer SGC very much so to PSA...

    ~ms
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • martyogelviemartyogelvie Posts: 86
    jeffcbay did note that PSA over SGC was just his opinion.

    It has been my experience that SGC is the preferred slab of vintage (pre wwi) collectors.

    To each his own, I keep both in high regards, all by themselves.
  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭
    The best slab is no slab, but SGC is runner up for vintage.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I respect everyone's right to their own opinion on preferred grading company...

    That said, I will argue vigorously against anyone who suggests that SGC is on par with BCCG and GEM...
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
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