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What a waste of $2k!

Why don't people figure this stuff out? Why isn't there an easy way to report listings like these?

Horrible Scam Auction

I see dozens of these every week. There ought to be a feedback/flagging system where other users can weigh in when an item is a scam.
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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    Link didnt stick

  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496
    This may be an extremely dumb question, but how is it fake if it's PSA graded?
  • jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This may be an extremely dumb question, but how is it fake if it's PSA graded? >>



    Exactly my thoughts.
    -- Ryan Bell
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Edit: Now I see what's going on-he stole someone else's pic of the card. But did he buy this card from the seller? From the FB the seller left, it appears that he was a non-paying bidder.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    I wouldnt spend 2K from a guy with one feedback. That would make me nervous.

    joe
  • The poster never once said the card was fake. Look at the sellers most recent feedback...that could be what the poster is referring to.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Feedback Received





    From Buyers



    From Sellers



    Left for Others


    3 feedback received by thechampjesse (0 ratings mutually withdrawn) Page 1 of 1




    Comment From Date / Time Item #


    BEWARE SELLER/BUYERS. BIDDER STOLE MY PHOTOS FOR BABE RUTH NOW TRYING TO DEFRAUD
    Seller coachgifts( 30838) Apr-09-07 20:30 290098882765
    Reply by thechampjesse: how could i not paid for it. i listed a pics of my own. jealous i made more $ Apr-09-07 21:13
    Follow-up by coachgifts: thechampjesse STOLE MY PHOTOS AND IS TRYING TO DEFRAUD UNSUSPECTING BIDDERS Apr-09-07 21:17


    Great Ebayer Thank You for your business.. Scalediscounter.com
    Seller scalediscounters( 12983) Apr-08-07 20:00 150107886297


    GREAT PRODUCT JUST AS IT SAID!!! A+++++++++++++
    Buyer kozon2007( 2 ) Apr-06-07 13:17 230113148009

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So let me get this straight--the seller of this card was the winning bidder of the same card from another seller but never made good on payment, but then turned around and is attempting to sell this same card to someone else using the previous seller's photo? Wow.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>The poster never once said the card was fake. Look at the sellers most recent feedback...that could be what the poster is referring to. >>



    Ohhhh thanks for clearing that up. If it's true........what a dirtbag!!!!! I guess I have a lot to learn when it comes to what to look for with auctions. Thanks to you "old" guys (old being a relative term since I'm 16) I have already learned a ton in the month or so that I've been a member.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,624 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So let me get this straight--the seller of this card was the winning bidder of the same card from another seller but never made good on payment, but then turned around and is attempting to sell this same card to someone else using the previous seller's photo? Wow. >>




    Yep - took me a bit to figure it out as well. Guess he figured the seller wouldn't post that. But this scammer will soon be back with another ebay name with some other scam. These people really do need to be prosecuted for this stuff - this is ATTEMPTED ROBBERY - plain and simple! If he's a punk underage kid, which it appears he is, then the parents need to fined and held responsible.


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    << <i>So let me get this straight--the seller of this card was the winning bidder of the same card from another seller but never made good on payment, but then turned around and is attempting to sell this same card to someone else using the previous seller's photo? Wow. >>




    Yep - took me a bit to figure it out as well. Guess he figured the seller wouldn't post that. But this scammer will soon be back with another ebay name with some other scam. These people really do need to be prosecuted for this stuff - this is ATTEMPTED ROBBERY - plain and simple! If he's a punk underage kid, which it appears he is, then the parents need to fined and held responsible. >>



    I agree with all of your last paragraph except for the last sentence. If it is a punk kid doing this in his bedroom or wherever I am not sure how much the parents know what is going on. Parents can only police their kids so much. After all even if his or her web use is monitored eBay is hardly a porn site or how to steal a car site.
  • if the seller doesn't have the card, then is this pic a fake?
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    Looking for in PSA graded
    1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
    2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
    3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

    Basketball Autos
    1992 Courtside Flashback
    Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
    2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
    UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
    2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
    Press Pass Legends
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,624 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So let me get this straight--the seller of this card was the winning bidder of the same card from another seller but never made good on payment, but then turned around and is attempting to sell this same card to someone else using the previous seller's photo? Wow. >>




    Yep - took me a bit to figure it out as well. Guess he figured the seller wouldn't post that. But this scammer will soon be back with another ebay name with some other scam. These people really do need to be prosecuted for this stuff - this is ATTEMPTED ROBBERY - plain and simple! If he's a punk underage kid, which it appears he is, then the parents need to fined and held responsible. >>



    I agree with all of your last paragraph except for the last sentence. If it is a punk kid doing this in his bedroom or wherever I am not sure how much the parents know what is going on. Parents can only police their kids so much. After all even if his or her web use is monitored eBay is hardly a porn site or how to steal a car site. >>



    Parents are legally responsible for their children's behavior. You're right - the parents probably do not know what's going on - they will know if an effort is made by law enforcement to contact the residents at the address. And if appropriate a fine should be levied against the parents who are responsible for their child's criminal behavior.

    Scamming activity such as this needs to start being prosecuted...the word will get out about this and you'll see a lot less scams on ebay if potntial thieves know that there will be consequences to their actions. Right now for the most part there are no consequences so they have no incentive not to keep right on doing it.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,624 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if the seller doesn't have the card, then is this pic a fake?
    image >>



    That's a good point and I didn't miss that pic - these kids today are getting so good with computers and photoshop techniques...this could very well be and probably is...a decent photoshop job to fool people into thinking he has the card.
  • mandeldmandeld Posts: 350 ✭✭
    The pic is either a Photoshop job or just lifted from the other seller.

    What I don't get is how people will bid on cards like Ruth, Cobb, or other high value gems from sellers who have zero or just a couple of feedbacks. Even worse, for me, the tip off is when the guy only takes money orders or checks. In this case, the guy takes Paypal as well, but is unverified so insurance is only extended up to $200. Simple rule for me: I always pay Paypal, and I would never pay more than $2k (Paypal insurance limit) unless the seller is highly reputable with tons of feedback and I know who they are (bbcexchange, etc). Even then, you've got to use a credit card to pay through Paypal in order to get the insurance from your card provider in case you never receive the item.

    You've just got to use common sense on these things. How does someone that can afford a couple of thousand dollars for a Ruth, who has to be a serious collector, not figure that out?

    Just my .02...

    -Dan
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  • LWMMLWMM Posts: 471
    I live in Chapel Hill, just like the seller... wish I'd seen this listing earlier.
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    Looking for Jonny Gomes cards, especially Triple Threads and printing plates. Will consider all cards, though. Got something? Contact me at c_u_l_1@yahoo.com
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