Neyer on Jeter
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So I'm watching the Yankees last night, because they're the Yankees. In the second inning, with Baltimore's Kevin Millar on first base, Corey Patterson bunted. Broadcasters Michael Kay and Ken Singleton, take it away ...
Kay: A push-bunt toward third, A-Rod fields, there was nobody covering second, so A-Rod will take the out at first. Sacrifice successful, 5-3, and heads-up by Jeter: third base was not covered when A-Rod fielded the ball, and Jeter darted over to cover the bag.
Singleton: Now I don't know if there's supposed to be somebody at second or not, but when this ball is fielded by Alex Rodriguez, they had plenty of time to get Kevin Millar. He's not the fastest runner. The ball is bunted fairly hard. I mean, a couple hops, and you can see there's a play at second base if somebody's there to cover.
Kay: Robinson Cano never made a move toward covering second. His initial step was to first, because he was backing up the throw, I guess, to first base.
Singleton: No, he is supposed to go over there on a bunt play. If the first baseman charges, he's the one that's supposed to cover first. My question more would be with Derek Jeter, who alertly -- as you said -- went over to third to cover up in case Millar went there. But at first, if he moves over to second, there's a chance for a force play there.
Kay: But Phelps never charged, that's why it seemed strange that Cano didn't move to second.
Singleton: That's my point. When a bunt is laid down, the second baseman, his job is to get to first base and cover. If the first baseman doesn't charge, he lets the first baseman take it.
Awkward pause. Followed immediately by change of subject.
If you weren't paying attention, it would slip right past you, but Singleton was suggesting, ever so gently, that perhaps Jeter should have covered second base. Singleton also, and again ever so gently, made it terribly obvious that even after all the years Kay's been in the broadcast booth, he doesn't seem to know that the second baseman automatically breaks for first base when the batter squares around to bunt.
Here's the way it's usually supposed to work, when the batter's bunting: first and third basemen charge plateward, second baseman goes to first base, shortstop goes to second base, catcher goes to third base, and pitcher covers the plate. (Four years ago, Jeter suffered the only serious injury of his career when he collided with Blue Jays catcher Ken Huckaby, who was defending third base.)
Michael Kay went out of his way to commend Jeter for covering third base -- the sort of thing that shortstops do routinely, every day of the week -- and tried to blame Cano for not being at second base, but seemed utterly unwilling to acknowledge the possibility that Jeter did something wrong.
Isolated incident? Maybe. Except it happened again in the fourth inning.
Melvin Mora's on first base, and tries the delayed steal. That never works. Except it worked this time, because when Jorge Posada popped out of his crouch to throw, nobody was covering second. He then unleashed a one-hopper to the shortstop side of second base, which Jeter snagged. After which came this dialogue:
Singleton: You can see that Mora gets in there safely, ahead of the tag. Posada had nobody to throw to, and sometimes when you're catching you're taught just throw it to the bag, if nobody gets there it's not your fault.
Kay: That's exactly what happened, Kenny: Nobody was at second base, so Posada double-clutched, and then threw it wide.
OK, so we've established that it wasn't Posada's fault. Then whose fault was it?
Insert sound of crickets chirping here, because again the discussion, just as it approached the prospect of saying something negative about the beatified shortstop, simply ended.
What you think about all this depends on what you believe is the broadcaster's role. If you believe his role is to create and perpetuate myths about the local boys, then you probably don't mind at all. But if you believe he should report the facts on the field, then a steadfast refusal to consider a player's possible mistakes is something that should bother you quite a lot. The Yankees have all the advantages a baseball team could have. They don't need any extra help from the guys in the booth.
Kay: A push-bunt toward third, A-Rod fields, there was nobody covering second, so A-Rod will take the out at first. Sacrifice successful, 5-3, and heads-up by Jeter: third base was not covered when A-Rod fielded the ball, and Jeter darted over to cover the bag.
Singleton: Now I don't know if there's supposed to be somebody at second or not, but when this ball is fielded by Alex Rodriguez, they had plenty of time to get Kevin Millar. He's not the fastest runner. The ball is bunted fairly hard. I mean, a couple hops, and you can see there's a play at second base if somebody's there to cover.
Kay: Robinson Cano never made a move toward covering second. His initial step was to first, because he was backing up the throw, I guess, to first base.
Singleton: No, he is supposed to go over there on a bunt play. If the first baseman charges, he's the one that's supposed to cover first. My question more would be with Derek Jeter, who alertly -- as you said -- went over to third to cover up in case Millar went there. But at first, if he moves over to second, there's a chance for a force play there.
Kay: But Phelps never charged, that's why it seemed strange that Cano didn't move to second.
Singleton: That's my point. When a bunt is laid down, the second baseman, his job is to get to first base and cover. If the first baseman doesn't charge, he lets the first baseman take it.
Awkward pause. Followed immediately by change of subject.
If you weren't paying attention, it would slip right past you, but Singleton was suggesting, ever so gently, that perhaps Jeter should have covered second base. Singleton also, and again ever so gently, made it terribly obvious that even after all the years Kay's been in the broadcast booth, he doesn't seem to know that the second baseman automatically breaks for first base when the batter squares around to bunt.
Here's the way it's usually supposed to work, when the batter's bunting: first and third basemen charge plateward, second baseman goes to first base, shortstop goes to second base, catcher goes to third base, and pitcher covers the plate. (Four years ago, Jeter suffered the only serious injury of his career when he collided with Blue Jays catcher Ken Huckaby, who was defending third base.)
Michael Kay went out of his way to commend Jeter for covering third base -- the sort of thing that shortstops do routinely, every day of the week -- and tried to blame Cano for not being at second base, but seemed utterly unwilling to acknowledge the possibility that Jeter did something wrong.
Isolated incident? Maybe. Except it happened again in the fourth inning.
Melvin Mora's on first base, and tries the delayed steal. That never works. Except it worked this time, because when Jorge Posada popped out of his crouch to throw, nobody was covering second. He then unleashed a one-hopper to the shortstop side of second base, which Jeter snagged. After which came this dialogue:
Singleton: You can see that Mora gets in there safely, ahead of the tag. Posada had nobody to throw to, and sometimes when you're catching you're taught just throw it to the bag, if nobody gets there it's not your fault.
Kay: That's exactly what happened, Kenny: Nobody was at second base, so Posada double-clutched, and then threw it wide.
OK, so we've established that it wasn't Posada's fault. Then whose fault was it?
Insert sound of crickets chirping here, because again the discussion, just as it approached the prospect of saying something negative about the beatified shortstop, simply ended.
What you think about all this depends on what you believe is the broadcaster's role. If you believe his role is to create and perpetuate myths about the local boys, then you probably don't mind at all. But if you believe he should report the facts on the field, then a steadfast refusal to consider a player's possible mistakes is something that should bother you quite a lot. The Yankees have all the advantages a baseball team could have. They don't need any extra help from the guys in the booth.
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BUT Derek Jeter gets called out for this? WHAT A CROCK
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<< <i>Dan, Manny being Manny also includes roughly 35+ Hrs and 110+ Rbi's EVERY YEAR! >>
Jeter being Jeter equals .315 plus every year, just about 200 hits every year, 100 runs scored every year, 25 plus SB every year, and enough RBI's to make ANY team happy hitting where he hits every year , bla, bla, bla ..... this thread has AGENDA written ALL over it
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<< <i>I'll take Jeter on my team any day of the week. >>
No doubt about it
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<< <i>Dan, Manny being Manny also includes roughly 35+ Hrs and 110+ Rbi's EVERY YEAR! >>
Jeter being Jeter equals .315 plus every year, just about 200 hits every year, 100 runs scored every year, 25 plus SB every year, and enough RBI's to make ANY team happy hitting where he hits every year , bla, bla, bla ..... this thread has AGENDA written ALL over it
Agreed on the Bla, Bla, Bla bit
1. Michael Kay is an idiot
2. No Yankee broadcasters are allowed to ever say anything remotely critical about Yankee players
3. Derek Jeter is overrated
4. Michael Kay is an idiot (worth repeating)
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3. Derek Jeter is overrated
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ahhhhh, JEALOUSY! Can ANYONE name a Red Sox Shortstop in the last 100 years better then Derek Jeter ...... um ...... NO
Thanks for the laughs!
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<< <i>How many superstars ever get bashed by the media unless they're jerks. >>
I'm not saying that the media should "bash" Jeter. I just think they should acknowledge when he makes a mistake such as the mistakes that markj111 pointed out to begin this thread. Sure, Manny making mistakes gets pointed out and laughed off as "Manny being Manny," but at least those mistakes are pointed out. When Jeter screws up it is always someone else's fault.
I don't think anyone is trying to argue that Jeter sucks (at least not in this thread), but that the media has a gigantic crush on him and they are either unwilling to (or forbidden from) saying anything critical about him.
<< <i> When Jeter screws up it is always someone else's fault.
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Says who? Give me a break ...... I have watched almost every game Jeter has played since his first game in 1995 and HARDLY EVER does anyone ..... including the putrid Michael Kay make excuses for him. So, it happens from time to time .... like with ANY biased commentary which is rampant around the majors ....and suddenly it is NEWS becuase it is Derek Jeter of the big bad NY Yankees. Nah ...... none of this holds any water .... EXCEPT those with specific agendas.
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Jeter's being overrated seems to be 90% created by those who hate the Yanks and hate Jeter.
<< <i>So, what I am gathering here is that Jeter is NEVER allowed to make a mistake? We have to bring this up as a topic...incredible. Or should I say incredibly stupid.
Jeter's being overrated seems to be 90% created by those who hate the Yanks and hate Jeter. >>
Who said Jeter's not allowed to make a mistake? Nobody is questioning his skill, his stats, or his greatness. I don't know why the Yankee fans are so defensive about this. Everyone is just saying that the media can't seem to point it out when Jeter does make a mistake.
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<< <i>So, what I am gathering here is that Jeter is NEVER allowed to make a mistake? We have to bring this up as a topic...incredible. Or should I say incredibly stupid.
Jeter's being overrated seems to be 90% created by those who hate the Yanks and hate Jeter. >>
Who said Jeter's not allowed to make a mistake? Nobody is questioning his skill, his stats, or his greatness. I don't know why the Yankee fans are so defensive about this. Everyone is just saying that the media can't seem to point it out when Jeter does make a mistake. >>
Isnt the whole point of this thread to point out that Jeter made a mistake AND the hometown bias? I think you probably missed most of the why Jeter is overrated discussions over the last year? Listen to the Mets (though Ron Darling isnt so bad when it comes to being biased) and White Sox commentaries and then get back to this thread about hometown bias. I'm not sure about any of the other hometown commentators. And not only that, if it was any other ball player in the entire major leagues, this commentary wouldnt have even been pointed out.
And lets be real. We are talking about Michael Kay here. Probably one of the biggest blow hards in all of sports commentary. It's no secret Michael Kay would choose to make love to Derek Jeter over his own wife. (If in fact he is married) Singleton, Kaat, and Murcer are what every commentator should want to be.
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Listen to the Yanks some more when Al Leiter or Paul O'Neill are in the booth. They would have not only pointed out Jeter's mistake, they would have completely gone out of their way to make Michael Kay sound like an idiot. I don't think either Leiter or O'Neill have much respect for Kay. And why should they? Ken Singleton is just a different personality. He's too nice of a guy to make Michael Kay sound like an idiot on the air.
Let's pretend you could rate a player on a 100 scale, with 100 being walking on water. If you listen to the sports media, you'd think Jeter is about a 98. So if you say Jeter is "only" an 85 or 90, for example, you're still saying he's one hell of a ball player. Yet some would say you're a jealous Yankee-hater, that you're a Jeter-basher, or something like that.
No one has said Jeter sucks. No one has said they wouldn't want him on their team. Just that as good as he is, the media act as if he walks on water. He's very, very good but not the best player ever, which is just about the impression many get when we hear the sportscasters and the ESPN/FOX talking heads discuss him. No one ever mentions those times when he fails in the clutch. Yet let him get a game winning hit, and he's the most clutch player ever (even though his career close-and-late performance is roughly inline with his overall statistics).
It's possible to be very, very good and yet still be overrated. It isn't easy to do, but it's possible, and IMO Jeter pulls it off.
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3. Derek Jeter is overrated
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ahhhhh, JEALOUSY! Can ANYONE name a Red Sox Shortstop in the last 100 years better then Derek Jeter ...... um ...... NO
Thanks for the laughs!
Please explain what Jeter being overrated has to do with who has played SS for Red Sox. It has been proven (with facts, not blowhard rhetoric) that Jeter is a below average defensive SS. He is a great player who will deservedly waltz into the HOF. There are a lot of players in the HOF whose defense was below par. Jeter will be another one.
<< <i>The Yankees have a better SS playing 3rd Base.
Without a doubt!
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Isnt the whole point of this thread to point out that Jeter made a mistake AND the hometown bias? I think you probably missed most of the why Jeter is overrated discussions over the last year? Listen to the Mets (though Ron Darling isnt so bad when it comes to being biased) and White Sox commentaries and then get back to this thread about hometown bias. I'm not sure about any of the other hometown commentators. And not only that, if it was any other ball player in the entire major leagues, this commentary wouldnt have even been pointed out.
And lets be real. We are talking about Michael Kay here. Probably one of the biggest blow hards in all of sports commentary. It's no secret Michael Kay would choose to make love to Derek Jeter over his own wife. (If in fact he is married) Singleton, Kaat, and Murcer are what every commentator should want to be.
Edited to state:
Listen to the Yanks some more when Al Leiter or Paul O'Neill are in the booth. They would have not only pointed out Jeter's mistake, they would have completely gone out of their way to make Michael Kay sound like an idiot. I don't think either Leiter or O'Neill have much respect for Kay. And why should they? Ken Singleton is just a different personality. He's too nice of a guy to make Michael Kay sound like an idiot on the air. >>
This is a great point. As I said, it shocked me that Jeter's gaffe was not mentioned by Kay and Singleton tried politely to bring it up. Yet, when Arod screws up Kay is all over him. The problem has nothing to do with Jeter--it has to do with a biased commentator...
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Please explain what Jeter being overrated has to do with who has played SS for Red Sox. It has been proven (with facts, not blowhard rhetoric) that Jeter is a below average defensive SS. He is a great player who will deservedly waltz into the HOF. There are a lot of players in the HOF whose defense was below par. Jeter will be another one. >>
You want an explanation? Sure thing ..... Red Sox fans LOVE to HATE and tear down anything Derek Jeter yet it is obvious that he EASILY would be the greatest shortstop to ever roam Fenway Park if the Sox had drafted him.
There is a LONG history with this subject here on this forum mark .... I did not just come out of the thin air with that one.
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Please explain what Jeter being overrated has to do with who has played SS for Red Sox. It has been proven (with facts, not blowhard rhetoric) that Jeter is a below average defensive SS. He is a great player who will deservedly waltz into the HOF. There are a lot of players in the HOF whose defense was below par. Jeter will be another one. >>
You want an explanation? Sure thing ..... Red Sox fans LOVE it HATE and tear down anything Derek Jeter yet it is obvious that he EASILY would be the greatest shortstop to ever roam Fenway Park if the Sox had drafted him.
There is a LONG history with this subject here on this forum mark .... I did not just come out of the thin air with that one. >>
I agree that Jeter may well be better than any SS the Red Sox had; certainly Cronin was fine ballplayer, and off the top of my head I do not know which is better. Jeter's OPS is 3% higher than Cronin's (park adjusted). Cronin, though, was an above average defensive SS; Jeter most assuredly is not.
I asked for an explantation; you responded with an irrelevant rant that completely ignored the question (you must be a Republican).
Let me ask again, and I will type slower this time in hope that you can understand. What is the correlation between Jeter being overrated, and who has played SS for the Red Sox? If you have no facts (and you do not), please feel free to respond with another meaningless ad hominem attack.
<< <i> Let me ask again, and I will type slower this time in hope that you can understand. What is the correlation between Jeter being overrated, and who has played SS for the Red Sox? If you have no facts (and you do not), please feel free to respond with another meaningless ad hominem attack. >>
What an a$$. Let me ASK YOU a question mark. What was the point of this STUPID thread? Are you that lost to know there are homer commentators ALL over the majors?
Again, NONE of this stuff is noteworthy.
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<< <i>What an a$$. Let me ASK YOU a question mark. What was the point of this STUPID thread? Are you that lost to know there are homer commentators ALL over the majors? >>
No there isn't. Ever listen to a Chisox game? Fair, unbiased announcing all the way...
This thread was about the failure of the Yankee media to accurately point out Jeter's mistakes and faults. Am I right? If all the media exposure you ever had was from New York, you'd think Jeter not only was the best baseball player ever, but nothing short of Mother Theresa. The rest of the baseball world sees the reality, though - and if you point that out, you are all of a sudden a Jeter basher. It's a no-win situation.
<< <i>This thread was about the failure of the Yankee media to accurately point out Jeter's mistakes and faults. Am I right? >>
sure, BUT where are the threads about the biased announcing that goes on ALL over the majors? That is what makes this thread STUPID. The Yankees have biased commentators .... not all of them but WHO CARES?
This thread is pure GRADE A CRAP. (doggie doo)
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<< <i>The bottom line in any way you view this is Jeter is one of the highest paid players and a huge name for the Yankees. Ofcourse he will be subjected to critisism and praise, there is no questioning him playing hard or if he is good or not. The guy plays hard and is going to make errors like any other ballplayer, as far as him being busted on by Sox fans that goes with the territory like it or not. Most Sox fans will agree that we rag on him only because he is a standout Yankee. >>
Hey Paul, stop making sense!
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<< <i>The bottom line in any way you view this is Jeter is one of the highest paid players and a huge name for the Yankees. Ofcourse he will be subjected to critisism and praise, there is no questioning him playing hard or if he is good or not. The guy plays hard and is going to make errors like any other ballplayer, as far as him being busted on by Sox fans that goes with the territory like it or not. Most Sox fans will agree that we rag on him only because he is a standout Yankee. >>
Hey Paul, stop making sense!
OK fine then!! Arod S--k's and Jeter B--w's
<< <i>True, those White Sox guys are pretty amusing (and absolutely biased), but the Yankees pretty much set the standard for biased announcing all throughout their organization. Michael Kay is only one example - the horrible radio team of Sterling and Waldman is another. Ever listen to those two? It's enough to make you lose your lunch. >>
Luckily I don't listen to the horrible radio team (there is actually no longer any am/fm stations here in Buffalo with the right to broadcast Yankees games that I'm aware of, kind of sad/annoying when I'm on the road...)
As much as I despise Michael Kay, it can't be surprising that Kay walks the company line when Both Yes and the Yankees have the same ownership. I'm not sure any announcer routinely running down the team's superstars would last very long, and I'm not sure that's what the Yankees fans who watch the game want either.
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<< <i>True, those White Sox guys are pretty amusing (and absolutely biased), but the Yankees pretty much set the standard for biased announcing all throughout their organization. Michael Kay is only one example - the horrible radio team of Sterling and Waldman is another. Ever listen to those two? It's enough to make you lose your lunch. >>
Luckily I don't listen to the horrible radio team (there is actually no longer any am/fm stations here in Buffalo with the right to broadcast Yankees games that I'm aware of, kind of sad/annoying when I'm on the road...)
As much as I despise Michael Kay, it can't be surprising that Kay walks the company line when Both Yes and the Yankees have the same ownership. I'm not sure any announcer routinely running down the team's superstars would last very long, and I'm not sure that's what the Yankees fans who watch the game want either. >>
Good point, but I guess you haven't heard Jim Rice or Dennis Eckersley on NESN after a bad Sox game. Those guys take no prisoners, and have no problem telling you if a Sox player stunk it up that night. And, this is on NESN - so why do YES announcers have to insult their fans intelligence by walking on eggshells about Yankee mistakes? I'll tell you why - it's an unofficial company policy over there (maybe even an official one). Yankee players do make mistakes, and it would be nice if their broadcasters were honest enough about it.
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Good point, but I guess you haven't heard Jim Rice or Dennis Eckersley on NESN after a bad Sox game. Those guys take no prisoners, and have no problem telling you if a Sox player stunk it up that night. And, this is on NESN - so why do YES announcers have to insult their fans intelligence by walking on eggshells about Yankee mistakes? I'll tell you why - it's an unofficial company policy over there (maybe even an official one). Yankee players do make mistakes, and it would be nice if their broadcasters were honest enough about it. >>
Michael Kay is a homer, John Sterling is a homer, and that Boston product .... Susan Waldman is George's girl. I don't dispute that. Paul O'neill is no homer, Al Leiter is no homer, Ken Singleton is no homer, Joe Giradi is no homer. David Justice is the best of them all when it comes to critisizing the Yanks .....
again, this thread is crap as there are MANY teams with less then stellar announcing crews. Really guys, do the Red Sox OWN NESN? Do they? I don't know ........ is it not obvious that this would happen with the Yankees when YES is OWNED by George Steinbrenner?
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<< <i>True, those White Sox guys are pretty amusing (and absolutely biased), but the Yankees pretty much set the standard for biased announcing all throughout their organization. Michael Kay is only one example - the horrible radio team of Sterling and Waldman is another. Ever listen to those two? It's enough to make you lose your lunch.
I was wondering if Sterling was still around. He used to do Braves games, and he was truly horrible. I was so glad when he left. Now, if we can get rid of Chip Carey-he's not as bad as Sterling, but he is pretty awful.
<< <i>How BORED with life do you have to be to bring THIS to light?
BUT Derek Jeter gets called out for this? WHAT A CROCK
Manny was not given a gold glove he did not deserve either.