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OT: Poll Question Re: Gas Prices...

Seemingly, a day does not go by where I do not hear someone complain about gas prices. But even with all the complaints, the roads here in Southern California are as packed as ever. So I wonder. What would the gas price have to be for you to essentially stop driving your car and resort to alternative means of transportation? For myself, I gave this some serious thought and came to the conclusion that there is NO PRICE that would ALTER my driving habits, much less force me to give up driving. $5.00 per gallon? So then it would cost me $50.00 to fill up. What about $10.00 per gallon? Then it would be $100.00 to fill up. I might be masochistic, but I wish the gas prices were $10.00 per gallon. With that price, I'm guessing there would be a lot less cars on the road. But do you think I am incorrect in my belief? That the majority of people out there have the same attitude that I have about gas prices and driving, i.e. that (while they may complain about it) they're going to drive where they need to go regardless of the prices. As always, your thoughts are appreciated.

/s/ JackWESQ

P.S. What if gas was $20.00 per gallon? Then it woud cost $200.00 to fill up, at minimum. Multiplied by 50 weeks equals $10,000.00. Wow.
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Must be nice having a 10 gallon tank, but you must have to fill up often??image

    I am not sure but anything over $3.50 will probably have me thinking about my driving habits and minimizing unecessary trips.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
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  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭
    I actually traded in my SUV for a much friendlier gas mileage sedan about 8 months ago. I miss my SUV. I will probably get a new one by winter time.
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  • I think gas would have to hit $10+ in order for it to affect people in numbers to the point you'd see less traffic. They'll cut corners elsewhere rather than give up their precious cars. I, personally, am purchasing a motorcycle and cut down on my gas consumption...the savings in gas will more than pay for the bike.

    On a related note, it amuses me when people complain about gas prices...saying the oil companies 'should' keep gas under X amount.Why? They are a business designed to make a profit. If they can jack up prices and people will still buy it, more power to them. Serves those people right who use huge SUVs as their daily drivers with no need for it.


    I think this summer is going to be interesting with gas sitting above $4 all season. Can't wait to hear the whiny gas guzzlers complain about gas prices then.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually traded in my SUV for a much friendlier gas mileage sedan about 8 months ago. I miss my SUV. I will probably get a new one by winter time. >>




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  • I don't have an SUV, but that won't stop me from complaining about gas prices. If the price of gas were to hover around $4 for an extended period of time, I'll be having a chat with my manager and working from home about 3-4 days a week though. I would also have to consider driving a tiny, little car too. I'd miss my Maxima, but I have a long commute, and would have to consider changing something.
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I read a study that gas would have to be at $7.50 or $8 to justify, economically, purchasing an electric car.
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  • jjwormjjworm Posts: 196 ✭✭

    I am more concerned about the unbelievable amount of $$ I pay in property taxes here in NJ.

    As for gas prices, I take the train to work, but still drive 11 miles one way to the train. Even if prices soar, riding a bicycle to the train is just not an option. So I will have to deal, I guess.

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  • I don't even know how much it costs to fill up my empty tank anymore since the gas stations around here cut off at $75.
  • Exxon Mobil makes more money than God himself. They make money regardless of the cost of gas because demand hasn't gone down. People get real crazy when it creeps over $3.00, then feel "good" when they can get it at the bargain price of $2.60. I can't imagine owning a vehicle that didnt get at least 30 MPG. I really think the tipping point for most folks is $4.00-$5.00 a gallon... people would cut back on travel, carpool more, take commuter rail. They should be doing that anyway, but it usually takes a hit to the wallet or pocket book for people to wake up and smell the coffee.
  • $65 bucks a tank for my Land Rover. As long I have a job, kids to cab around I will pay whatever fuel is
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    As long I have a job, kids to cab around I will pay whatever fuel is

    I am in the same boat.

    Good news for me though... up until last year I had a '97 Suburban with a 42 gallon gas tank. Do the math; it was not pretty filling that bad boy up!
  • At current price levels ( $3.00), in New York State: The retailer makes approx. 5 cents per gallon: The Oil Companies make approx. 15 cents per gallon; the Federal Govt. has a tax of 18 cents per gallon and NYS has a tax of 54 cents per gallon. Keep that in mind when you hear all the polticians scream about how the Oil Cos. are gouging the consumer. I got those numbers from a recent issue of The Wall St. Journal.
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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think $7 would impact many, $10 per gallon would put it out of reach for most. Would also wipe out many industries.
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  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    As someone who always seems to work a long way away from home (5 years ago I was 75 miles and now I am 40 miles) when you log as many miles as I do, every bit hurts. I spend $500/month now between the wife & I. It has been as much as $650 a couple years back. Just thinking about doubling that gives me the willies. We're to the point in life now where things are a little more settled, and within the next couple of years we will be finding a home closer to work.
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  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    I guess most people would have to stop paying big prices for a bottle of water that comes from someone else public water works before thay worry about gas prices
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    What we need are renewable resources!! E85 is on the horizon and the government, especially the Bush administration, want to hold this back as long as possible! The oil companies have their paws in politics too. We don't have to tap the oil reserves in Alaska or the Gulf of Mexico...all we need is more corn, sunflower, and peanut fields!

    E85 burns cleaner so is much better for the enviornment, creates better horsepower, better gas mileage, and we will never run out of it.

    In NYS, retailers are not allowed to sell E85. The government is still trying to determine how to tax and keep it under control since some people are even smart enough to make their own ethanol. But yet, on I-90 there are 3 stations that sell it...why? because those pumps are controlled by NY STATE!!

    Most new vehicles are E85 capable. And for those that aren't, all it takes is a 450.00$ part to be installed. Any vehicle can be converted.

    Once the government gets their head out of their a$$ and not let the oil companies control these politicians who have an interest in oil profits (George Bush) then we will be on the road to economical and ecological recovery.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I thought E85 gave you worse gas mileage??
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    The generally accepted view on gas prices is that in the short run demand for gas is price inelastic, but in the long run it's price elastic. Which is another way of saying that for most people a large change in the price of gas won't change their consumption habits in the short run, but if that new price is maintained it will significantly change their consumption habits in the long run.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought E85 gave you worse gas mileage?? >>



    I have seen reports of both. E85 technology is much better than what it used to be. I suppose right now that arguement is up in the air.

    But if it can be made cheap enough(which is the real challenge) then if the prices can stay below a possible 15% reduction in mileage then we are MUCH better off as an economy and for the enviornment.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    I have a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid and I like the car alot.

    Does it get 50 miles a gallon like the sticker "claims"? No, at least not for me, which is probably due to the fact that I don't drive like a 90 year old woman.

    I just took it out to PA and back, roughly 900 mile round trip, and averaged 43.7mpg.

  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    I own a business with a fleet of 12 vans and 3 trucks. My gas bill is about $4300 per month. When the price goes up $.10, it raises my gas bill by $380 per month.

    If gas prices went up, I would have to do like I see alot of shipping and delivery companies do, start putting a gas surcharge on the bill
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>What we need are renewable resources!! E85 is on the horizon and the government, especially the Bush administration, want to hold this back as long as possible! The oil companies have their paws in politics too. >>



    Bah. If you're waiting for the government to make a move, you're gonna wait forever. Oil Company money finds its way into the pockets of both Republicans and Democrats alike. A politician will sound off about oil companies to get elected, then they'll shut up once they get their first visit from the oil industry lobby. Dubya might like the oil money, but so would Kerry, Edwards, Obama, Clinton, etc.

    There's not an infinite amount of oil hiding in our planet. Global demand continues to rise as more and more countries become industrialized. One of these days, we're going to hit a point where global production peeks out, and the countdown to the last drop begins.

    When industry starts to feel the strain in their bottom line, THEN, they will scramble for change. It's then that we'll all start seeing affordable FEVs on the road, with more in R&D waiting to get released.
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  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496
    I've never understood the complaints over gas.

    Especially here in So Cal. How about protests over the horrible conditions in our schools, how about our health care system falling apart? There might be a few things more important than gas going over the "magical" $3 mark, and then everyone calms down when it's back to $2.50.

  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    The price of gas affects everything. Its not just what you pump in the tank of your car but every consumable item.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I've never understood the complaints over gas. >>



    Less money left in the checking account at the end of the month is what it boils down to (and less money for sports cards!!!!!!). When you hit someone's pocket book, they'll take notice.
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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    When it costs more to harvest the wheat, get it to the mill, drive the loaf of bread to the store, you to get in your car to go buy it.

    Its the trickle down theory Reagonomics always dreamed of. A $477 billion budget deficit doesnt help the american economy as well, the largest peactime deficit in american history. (sorry mass-republican guy) Not to mention worldwide post 9-11 good will squandered on a coalition of the "willing"

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  • << <i>I have a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid and I like the car alot.

    Does it get 50 miles a gallon like the sticker "claims"? No, at least not for me, which is probably due to the fact that I don't drive like a 90 year old woman.

    I just took it out to PA and back, roughly 900 mile round trip, and averaged 43.7mpg. >>



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  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭
    Watch the documentary "Who killed the electric car"

    It is a documentary but it will make you so pissed.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Americans across all socio-economic lines have an amazing ability to absorb price increases when it comes to activities they don't want to give up, and driving and smoking are in that category. A pack of cigarettes is about $7.50 in New York City at the present time, but I'd bet that just as many people smoke as many cigarettes now as when a pack of smokes were $5 a pack, and driving is no different. The impact on the economy though would be more profound as many businesses that rely on gasoline-based transportation would be much more affected than the average Joe.


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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    As Yankeeno7 pointed out, the price of gas/oil effects everything that is manufactured.

    Currently, the price of gas adjusted for inflation over the past 25 years is still cheap in the USA. Inflation caused by higher gas prices will no doubt drive prices upward across the board for nearly everything else we consume. The economy could really suffer.

    I started noticing changes here when gas was staying above $3.00 a gallon a couple of summers ago. Even though I drive a 2000 Accord and only drive 4200 miles a year on average, I was changing my driving habits when gas was over $3 a gallon by not speeding on the freeway and coasting up to traffic signals as they were changing to red. I always combine my car trips anyway so the higher prices didn't cause me to suddenly shorten or combine my car trips.

    I truly believe if gas got over $6 a gallon, than many americans would simply dump their SUV's and buy a more fuel efficient car. I've never understood soccer mom's driving large SUVs that get only 12 MPH when they have one or two kids to cart around.

    I know a lot of people would not like this idea, but frankly I would like to see a tiered gas price at the pump system employed, which would be based on your cars mpg.

    A small fuel efficient car would get charged a lower amount per gallon. The middle size car would pay the middle amount, and the large SUV's and truck's would get belted by paying the most for gas.
    That pricing structure would change many, many peoples driving habits and prohibit the wasting of our limited fuel.

    Business' that actually use trucks for their jobs would be exempt from the higher gas rates.

    Most people that drive SUV's can afford higher gas prices and this extra money charged to these drivers would then be used to fund/research alternative fuel sources for the future. It wouldn't simply be going into the pockets of the Exxon's of the world.

    I read an interesting article about 'peak oil' last year. If I can find it, I'll try to post it here for others to check out. I believe they estimated the peak oil year to be 2012. That would basically be the half way point of our oil comsumption in history. From that point on, the amount of oil pumped out of the earth would slowing decrease and prices would escalate upwards. You would see war's being waged just for the sake of getting oil from other countries. It's really a doomsday scenario, but one that could start to be played out in the next 20 years or so.


    Bottom line, gas prices going higher is not a good thing unless you like inflation.

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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    Tiered gas pump prices? Do you know where we live? Thats discrimination against someone whoe doesnt drive a certain car.

    The ACLU would be knocking on your door ( as well as the president of the local socialists club) Before we could try that, some sort of tort reform would have to be in order.

    Great idea in theory, actually I like it, but we will run out of gas before our attorneys allow that
  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭
    Not to mention worldwide post 9-11 good will squandered

    It sure is a shame that all of that good will has been squandered. I remember the good old days when Iran, Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia loved the U.S. so much. You can’t forget how their political parties helped too. Like the Hezbollah bake sales to raise money for firefighters’ widows, the Al Qaida car washes to build the memorial in Shanksville, and the ever-caring Palestinian march to condemn the actions of the hijackers and show support for the U.S. troops. I remember just like yesterday when the Taliban sent all of their French and Russian money to scholarship funds for children of killed NYPD officers.

    It sure is a shame that the world started to hate the U.S. on January 20, 2001. I’m glad they’ll all go back to their peaceful and fanciful days as soon as someone else is in office. It is obvious the whole world loves, admires and respects women like Nancy Pelosi.
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  • stop shopping at walmart and the gas will go down china is the reason
  • 262Runner262Runner Posts: 606 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It sure is a shame that all of that good will has been squandered. I remember the good old days when Iran, Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia loved the U.S. so much. You can’t forget how their political parties helped too. Like the Hezbollah bake sales to raise money for firefighters’ widows, the Al Qaida car washes to build the memorial in Shanksville, and the ever-caring Palestinian march to condemn the actions of the hijackers and show support for the U.S. troops. I remember just like yesterday when the Taliban sent all of their French and Russian money to scholarship funds for children of killed NYPD officers. >>



    I could not have said it any better.

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