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Ebay Shipping Rant

Why do sellers seem compelled to resuse bubble mailers. I just got back from the PO with a a fraction of an 8.5 x 11 bubble mailer that was taped on two sides, but not completely. thankfully it was dropped in a puddle of water somewhere. So I paid 1.50 for this but the seller really only paid 0.52 to mail it. Then he just cuts out my address from the paypal notice he got. Nothing better than nice 12 point font writing for an address. He was able to use a larger label for his return address though. I left him feedback, positive since i got the item in a nice time frame but saying next time use a whole mailer.

Ahh, I feel better now. SOrry for the rant.
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Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's

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  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭
    I must confess I do not understand the shipping complaints. If the shipper states the charges, then I know what I will pay. If he gets it to me for less than I paid for shipping, with the card in the stated condition, I do not care.
  • jskirwinjskirwin Posts: 700 ✭✭✭
    $.52? You sure about that? Most bubble mailers I reuse add about 1/2 an ounce to whatever I ship. And since I always add cardboard to the cards for rigidity, even shipping a single card pushes me into 2 ounce+oversize turf.

    Reduce - Reuse - Recycle

    I'm not exactly a tree-hugger but I don't have a problem with that mantra - especially when it comes to this hobby.

    Perhaps this seller was pushing it when it came to reusing; I've thrown mailers away that were falling apart or so covered with ink that they could cause trouble at the PO. And his labeling leaves much to be desired.

    But ask yourself this: Did the product arrive in great condition?

    In the end the only thing that matters is that the packaging protects the contents and gets the package into your hands.

    As for the $1.50... Considering the idiotic shipping rates we see online, a buck overcharge is nothing. In fact as a seller I usually undercharge shipping - and really got nailed recently when I took a $12 hit on shipping charges to Australia thanks to Amazon's miscalculation of them. I could have refused to ship, but I took the hit because... well, I like Australians. They're a pretty cool people.



  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>$.52? You sure about that? Most bubble mailers I reuse add about 1/2 an ounce to whatever I ship. And since I always add cardboard to the cards for rigidity, even shipping a single card pushes me into 2 ounce+oversize turf.

    Reduce - Reuse - Recycle

    I'm not exactly a tree-hugger but I don't have a problem with that mantra - especially when it comes to this hobby.

    Perhaps this seller was pushing it when it came to reusing; I've thrown mailers away that were falling apart or so covered with ink that they could cause trouble at the PO. And his labeling leaves much to be desired.

    But ask yourself this: Did the product arrive in great condition?

    In the end the only thing that matters is that the packaging protects the contents and gets the package into your hands.

    As for the $1.50... Considering the idiotic shipping rates we see online, a buck overcharge is nothing. In fact as a seller I usually undercharge shipping - and really got nailed recently when I took a $12 hit on shipping charges to Australia thanks to Amazon's miscalculation of them. I could have refused to ship, but I took the hit because... well, I like Australians. They're a pretty cool people. >>



    A ha! But saying you took a hit on shipping assumes that the item would have sold for the same amount even if you had listed the item with a higher shipping fee. Since most bidders to account for shipping costs when placing their bids (or at least I think they do), then this condition probably doesn't hold.

    This is one of the reasons I don't get fussy about shipping charges when I sell. If it costs me $10 to ship, and I only charged $6, I figure I made the extra 4$ in the bidding- or at least something close to it. People who say 'wait for the auction close so I can determine exact shipping charges' are not, IMO, thinking very clearly.
  • jskirwinjskirwin Posts: 700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I must confess I do not understand the shipping complaints. If the shipper states the charges, then I know what I will pay. >>



    Yep. I ALWAYS factor in shipping when I bid.

    If a seller lists a card with $10 shipping and it's worth $12, I bid $2 (2+10=12).

    If a seller lists the same card with $1 shipping, I bid $11.

    That takes the sting out of the shipping issue.
  • jskirwinjskirwin Posts: 700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>
    As for the $1.50... Considering the idiotic shipping rates we see online, a buck overcharge is nothing. In fact as a seller I usually undercharge shipping - and really got nailed recently when I took a $12 hit on shipping charges to Australia thanks to Amazon's miscalculation of them. I could have refused to ship, but I took the hit because... well, I like Australians. They're a pretty cool people. >>



    A ha! But saying to took a hit on shipping assumes that the item would have sold for the same amount even if you had listed the item with a higher shipping fee. Since most bidders to account for shipping costs when placing their bids (or at least I think they do), then this condition probably doesn't hold. >>



    Yeah, you're right. I hadn't considered that from the seller's perspective. What I meant was that I regularly undercharge for shipping - mainly because I overpack my items which boosts their weights. But you're right - I probably make up for it with bigger closing prices.

    Amazon is different though since there's no bidding. It ain't EBay - but it's a better venue for books and other media.
  • I could care less if the seller sends my card in a reused diaper, as long as it gets to me safely and in proper condition.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    "Yep. I ALWAYS factor in shipping when I bid."

    So do I, as does any intelligent person. I think forum members just like complaining about ebay, despite the fact that it appears forum members use ebay to buy and sell more then other venues.

    In most cases, you can buy that card that books at $20.00 for $5.00 plus $2.00 on ebay ($7.00) or for $12.00 at a local card shop. I don't care if they send it with a stamp in a top loader as long as it gets to me and in the condition noted or shown, the end result is the same.

    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    If a seller lists the same card with $1 shipping, I bid $11.

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    I wish all bidders did that; they do not.

    As part of their campaign against excessive shipping-charges
    and fee-circumvention, EBAY has been trying to prove the
    theory that most bidders factor in the shipping costs to their
    bids; the raw data is dispositive.

    What we know for sure is that MANY bidders factor in the
    shipping costs. Most on this board say they do.

    There is little evidence to support the notion that low-shipping
    fees substantially increase closing prices. Even "free shipping"
    is far from a guarantee of a higher end-price.

    EBAY continues to claim that low item-prices are the primary
    determination of whether or not a listing succeeds. Some phone
    surveys show that FB is more important than shipping costs.

    I use "free shipping" because it is easy; but, it does not increase
    sale prices. In fact, discounted shipping for multiple purchases is
    a far greater spur to add-on sales than is free-shipping.


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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I could care less if the seller sends my card in a reused diaper, as long as it gets to me safely and in proper condition. >>



    I will keep that in mind
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    I see nothing wrong with reusing a mailer as long as you still send out a package that is structurally intact and doesn't contain any visible writing that could confuse someone from the USPS.

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  • Ive gotten lots of stuff in reused bubble mailers.

    I also reuse boxes; good sturdy ones are a great cost saver.
    i'll also turn priority boxes inside out and reuse those too. or cut em up and make smaller boxes.
    gotta cut costs!
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> that could confuse someone from the USPS.

    Nick >>



    Not to pick on postal employees, but .....

    #LetsGoSwitzerlandThe Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read. The biggest obstacle to progress is a habit of “buying what we want and begging for what we need.”You get the Freedom you fight for and get the Oppression you deserve.
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