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put Pete in the damn hall and be done with him

metalmikemetalmike Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
Yep he bet on baseball butt did he do crack/weed/steroids/HGH---yes Peter has a big head he played like a monster! nuff said. comments plz- Mike
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  • how about we put him in a zoo instead? he can sit in a cage eating peanuts and bet on how many time the monkeys will pleasure themselves?
  • I hope he never gets into the HOF. as a matter of fact. he should never even be allowed to visit the HOF!
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,031 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope he never gets into the HOF. as a matter of fact. he should never even be allowed to visit the HOF! >>



    I heard Rose say in an interview that he is trying to get the Baseball Hall of Fame moved from Cooperstown to Las Vegas.
  • He bet on games as a manager, not as a player. Put him in the hall based on his merits as a player. Don't allow him to manage or be involved with baseball in any capacity. It's an easy solution, it's what a majority of baseball fans want, but some people want to feel they are superior to Rose so they keep him out.

    Why it hasn't happened yet shows just how removed from reality Selig is.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I hope he never gets into the HOF. as a matter of fact. he should never even be allowed to visit the HOF! >>



    I heard Rose say in an interview that he is trying to get the Baseball Hall of Fame moved from Cooperstown to Las Vegas. >>



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    And for those of you who have short term memory loss, I point to Rule 21 (d), which is posted in EVERY. SINGLE. CLUBHOUSE.

    MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL rules - rule 21: MISCONDUCT

    (a) MISCONDUCT IN PLAYING BASEBALL. Any player or person connected with a club who shall promise or agree to lose, or to attempt to lose, or to fail to give his best efforts towards the winning of any baseball game with which he is or may be in any way concerned; or who shall intentionally fail to give his best efforts towards the winning of any such baseball game, or who shall solicit or attempt to induce any player or person connected with a club to lose, or attempt to lose, or to fail to give his best efforts towards the winning of any baseball game with which such other player or person is or may be in any way connected; or who, being solicited by any person, shall fail to inform his Major League President and the Commissioner.

    (b) GIFT FOR DEFEATING COMPETING CLUB. Any player or person connected with a club who shall offer or give any gift or reward to a player or person connected with another club for services rendered or supposed to be or to have been rendered in defeating or attempting to defeat a competing club, and any player or person connected with a club who shall solicit or accept from a player connected with another club any gifts or reward for any such services rendered, or supposed to have been rendered, or who having been offered any such gift or reward, shall fail to inform his League President or the Commissioner immediately of such offer, and of all facts and circumstances therewith, shall be declared ineligible for not less than three (3) years.

    (c) GIFTS TO umpireS Any player or person connected with a club, who shall give, or offer to give, any gift or reward to an umpire for services rendered, or supposed to be or to have been rendered, in defeating or attempting to defeat a competing club, or for the umpire's decision on anything connected with the playing of a baseball game; and any umpire who shall render, or promise or agree to render, any such decision otherwise than on its merits, or who shall solicit or accept such gifts or reward, or having been solicited to render any such decision otherwise than on its merits, shall fail to inform the League President or the Commissioner immediately of such offer or solicitation, and all facts and circumstances therewith, shall be declared permanently ineligible.

    (d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.

    (e) VIOLENCE OR MISCONDUCT IN INTERLEAGUE GAMES. In case of any physical attack or other violence upon an umpire by a player, or by an umpire upon a player, or of other misconduct by an umpire or a player, during or in connection with any interleague Major League game or any exhibition game of a Major League Club with a club or team not a member of the same league, the Commissioner shall impose upon the offender or offenders such fine, suspension, ineligibility or other penalty, as the facts may warrant in the judgement of the Commissioner.

    (f) OTHER MISCONDUCT. Nothing herein contained shall be construed as exclusively defining or otherwise limiting acts, transactions, practices or conduct not to be in the best interests of Baseball; and any and all other acts, transactions, practices or conduct not to be in the best interests of Baseball are prohibited and shall be subject to such penalties, including permanent ineligibility, as the facts in the particular case may warrant.

    (g) rule TO BE KEPT POSTED. A printed copy of this rule shall be kept posted in each clubhouse.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    wait till he croaks, put him in, sit back and WATCH what happens on ebay!! lol
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    this whole song and dance again
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>this whole song and dance again >>




    I know, this is getting as bad as Barry Bonds threads.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    Now, I've been a strong supporter of Rose in the Hall for several years now, but it won't happen during the Selig Administration, that I can promise you.
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  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    He agreed to a lifetime ban and is out of the hall, on that basis we should just be done with him.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If he goes in, it is on the inside of the urinal. A hall of fame career destroyed by a hall of shame habit.
    Mike
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  • put him in the hockey HOF
  • His accomplishments on the field should have in him as a player. His betting on games as a manager should keep him banned from the game. Let's not forget that the HoF is not run by MLB, so MLB could, at its discretion, put Rose on the ballot AND keep him banned from baseball in any and all capacity.

    There's a similar undercurrent I see in regards to Pete and the alleged steroid usage by McGwire. It's apparent to me that the people who want a confession out of Mac are the same people who want Rose barred for life. One can only come to the assumption that they see these all-time greats and feel the need to knock them down so as to feel better about themselves than these marvelous athletes who worked harder than these haters every would. It's the same mentality that draws people to shows like Jerry Springer's: the feeling of superiority it inspires that their lives aren't as bad as the ones being depicted on those shows. The same mentality that leads these people to want to bash and keep down those athletes who busted their humps to get to the level they did.

    MLB needs to do what the vast majority of fans want, and put Pete in the Hall. Keep him out of baseball and any and all jobs. Everyone goes home happy (except the righteous hypocrites, and who cares about them anyways?)
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Can you imagine the threads if he had been a Yankee or a Red Sox player. Be thankful he played in Hicksville. image Just shut up already! He will never ever ever be enshrined in the Hall.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    News item for winter of the year 2010:

    .....In a stunning development, Pete Rose was elected MLB commissioner given the power to make whatever rule changes he deemed necessary to benefit the game......

    Baseball game announcer for the first game played in the 2011 season.

    "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a new MLB season. The game starts in ten minutes. Make sure all bets are in before post time which is right before the first pitch is thrown. There is betting on the winner of the game, betting on whether the first pitch is a ball or strike, betting on each pitch and each event throughout the game, betting on each player's performance, and multiple thousands of other wagering opportunities for your betting pleasure and entertainment. Be sure to check out our carryover jackpot and parlay bets based on picking the next no hitter or perfect game. Remember Pete's advice to bet over your head, not with it, because the more you bet the bigger the adrenaline rush thrill, the more fun you'll have, and the sooner you can get your car repossessed - just bring the bank's repossession notice to the betting window to be eligible to enter the drawing for a new car. Remember if you win the car, you can immediately go double or nothing on any even money bet of your choice. Enjoy the game and good luck with your wagering."
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can you imagine the threads if he had been a Yankee or a Red Sox player. Be thankful he played in Hicksville. image Just shut up already! He will never ever ever be enshrined in the Hall. >>



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    Last I heard, an overwhelming majority of fans DON'T want Pete in the hall. He had numerous opportunities to come clean but he continued to lie.

    He's banned but obviously, some people don't understand this simple concept.

    Too bad, so sad, and better luck next time image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • A simple search from either google or yahoo shows an overwhelming number of both fans *and* players want him in.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you and people like you are in the definite minority in saying Rose shouldn't be a HoFer.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Regardless of what your opinion is, Tinkerbell, he ain't getting in.

    Too bad, so sad, and go get banned, again image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Funny how someone's argument changed from an 'overwhelming' number of fans don't want him in to attacking someone personally:

    Link for evidence 1

    "Most Americans want Pete Rose back in professional baseball — and eligible for the Hall of Fame — even if he bet on games while he managed the Cincinnati Reds.

    Two-thirds in this ABCNEWS/ESPN poll believe baseball's all-time hits leader did bet on baseball games. But as many also say Rose's 1989 lifetime ban should be lifted, and that he should be eligible for the shrine honoring baseball's greats in Cooperstown, N.Y."

    A mock trial held by ESPN came up with the same answer: let him in:

    Link

    A majority of major leaguers feel he should be in th ehall as well:

    Link

    "Major-leaguers overwhelmingly believe Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame, according to a new poll conducted by Sports Illustrated."


    So kind of shoots down the theory that only a minority of people want and feel Rose should be in the hall.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Funny how someone's argument changed from an 'overwhelming' number of fans don't want him in to attacking someone personally:

    Link for evidence 1

    "Most Americans want Pete Rose back in professional baseball — and eligible for the Hall of Fame — even if he bet on games while he managed the Cincinnati Reds.

    Two-thirds in this ABCNEWS/ESPN poll believe baseball's all-time hits leader did bet on baseball games. But as many also say Rose's 1989 lifetime ban should be lifted, and that he should be eligible for the shrine honoring baseball's greats in Cooperstown, N.Y."

    A mock trial held by ESPN came up with the same answer: let him in:

    Link

    A majority of major leaguers feel he should be in th ehall as well:

    Link

    "Major-leaguers overwhelmingly believe Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame, according to a new poll conducted by Sports Illustrated."


    So kind of shoots down the theory that only a minority of people want and feel Rose should be in the hall. >>



    Uh, yeah... Polls and stories from 2003, which was BEFORE he admitted to betting on baseball.

    Nice spin attempt.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • First post clearly says 'even if he bet on games while managing'.

    Americans as a majority want him in - even with his betting on games as a manager. Sorry to bust your bubble, but you and those like you (who feel Rose should be kept out) are in the minority.

    Sorry bub.

    edit: And its 66+% in favor of his going to the hall, so its not as if its a slight majority, its overwhelming.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Using polls when there was a large swell of support and prior to him admitting holds water.

    Right.

    And on a side note, why do you keep coming back after getting banned over and over and over? Third time wasn't a charm?

    Stop being that guy who keeps getting booted from the same bar. Take the non-subtle hint, leave, and don't come back.

    Seriously, you aren't wanted here. This place is so much more pleasant without you, so please, just go.

    Thank you.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • one of the best ballplayers that i ever saw play the game. i used to get so mad at him when he would be the pirates. the hall of fame is supposedly based on ability and he gave110% everyday. he deserves to be there. it's a joke. and he doesn't make it any easier. if he would have come clean in the beginning, he may already have been inducted. how much would he be worth in today's baseball market?

    eddye

    ps and bobby clemente was one of the most underrated players of all time.
  • put in shoeless Joe before douche bag Rose.
  • metalmikemetalmike Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    Bud Selig is worse than Pete. He let a banned player into the HOF -pete's stuff, he let Pete participate in the All Century team- he let the Reds have a PETE ROSE display this year. Forgive him, and hope Barry stops like he PROMISED and remember Baseball is AWESOME -Go Mets
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  • I expect to see him in there in my lifetime.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I expect to see him in there in my lifetime.

    Don't hold yr breath. image


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rose may not get in the HOF in the earth's lifetime - what is that about 2 billion years to go before the sun expands into a supernova and engulfs the earth? Rose still won't be in by then - LOL
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    I also think Rose will be elected in my lifetime. Rose is a good 30 years older then me, so perhaps not in his lifetime. Pete Rose, like him or love him, was Mr. Baseball for years. He should be enshrined.

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