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Bust Quarter experts- Premium on 1819 25c B-4???

What should be the approximate premium on an 1819 quarter B-4 variety in mid-grade??? Breen called it an R-6, I've never even seen one for sale before.

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    The 1819 B-4 is no longer an R6....latest Bust Quarter census has this variety as an R4 according to the JRCS
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the late die state, with the two die cracks running through the date, the coin is probably an R-6. That coin and die state is my current icon. The more commonly seen die state, with a weak die crack starting around the date and going around the stars on the right side, is IMO an R-4. Premium is probably whatever the market will bear. I did see the common die state at Baltimore but it was out of reach.

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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought this one 2 months ago, properly attributed, for $75. Personally, I think it is worth more like $125 to $150 and the dealer overcompensated a little for the two obverse scrapes. However, I don't see this as an R6 that would bring thousands of $$$ in low grades.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I bought this one 2 months ago, properly attributed, for $75. Personally, I think it is worth more like $125 to $150 and the dealer overcompensated a little for the two obverse scrapes. However, I don't see this as an R6 that would bring thousands of $$$ in low grades.

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    that coin is very sweet!
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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I doubt the 1819 B-4 is worth much of a premium, since the new rarity ratings place it at only R4. There simply are not that many serious variety collectors of Capped Bust Quarters, not at all close to the number of serious Bust Half Dollar variety collectors.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There simply are not that many serious variety collectors of Capped Bust Quarters, not at all close to the number of serious Bust Half Dollar variety collectors.

    This is a flagrant "red flag" pointing to an undervalued series! Remember not too long ago when few people cared about Bust half varieties? I remember dealers telling me as recently as 2002 that they could only get a 10% premium over "common" price for an R4, and 30-50 % for an R5. How things have changed since hundreds of people jumped on that bandwagon. Another example: people didn't really care much about collecting Morgan dollars by date/mm in the early 1960s. I think that situation has changed too.
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    elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414 ✭




    << <i> doubt the 1819 B-4 is worth much of a premium, since the new rarity ratings place it at only R4. >>



    There is if they look nice and a condtion census candidate (EF++).

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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭

    The Overton book, Dr. Peterson's book, and Edgar Souder's BUST HALF FEVER all combine to give a firm foundation to collecting the Bust Half Dollars. Consider the lack of a decent variety book for the Bust Quarters. Even when a new quarter book arrives, I hope in the near future, we must still remember that the large size quarters in XF are still over $1,000 each. Why spend so much more money for a smaller coin that is much more circulated than a high end AU Bust Half Dollar?

    It takes a very large bankroll to collect Bust Quarters by variety in XF or better. I do not see the quarters catching on with collector numbers anywhere like the half dollars.

    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Large size quarters in XF are still over $1,000 each. Why spend so much more money for a smaller coin that is much more circulated than a high end AU Bust Half Dollar?

    because these are much rarer than half dollars... one might have to be happy with a good or very good coin for some of the tougher varieties. Once I found quarters my interest in capped bust halves dropped nearly to zero.

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    I've purchased a few of these over the last 5 years or so and it's a very difficult variety to find better than G-VG. The Bust Quarters are much more difficult to locate nice than the Halves.

    Bill
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I bought this one 2 months ago, properly attributed, for $75. Personally, I think it is worth more like $125 to $150 and the dealer overcompensated a little for the two obverse scrapes. However, I don't see this as an R6 that would bring thousands of $$$ in low grades.

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    Rhedden, in the words of Howie Mandel, "you made a great deal!" image
    I don't think it would bring thousands in low grades, but it IMO is worth more than $150.

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