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OUCH! 5 outta 7 BodyBags.....

TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭
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Someone needs to learn how to grade!

This was a costly lesson to someone......

TorinoCobra71

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Someone needs to learn how to grade! >>



    PCGS?

    Russ, NCNE
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I think they need to learn what a cleaned coin looks like.
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    combatmailmancombatmailman Posts: 670
    OUCH!! image
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Someone needs to learn how to grade! >>



    PCGS?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I just went thru a couple of pages of shared submissions, there seems to be one or a few bodybags on each submission. Is PCGS really TIGHT right now?!?!?!

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    TorinoCobra71

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    HonoluluDudeHonoluluDude Posts: 2,167 ✭
    I wish PCGS would give a detailed summary on why they thought the coin was cleaned or deemed "altered surface".
    I think it would help to educate their customers. But I guess they would be shooting themselves in the
    foot if they did that, right?
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I wish PCGS would give a detailed summary on why they thought the coin was cleaned or deemed "altered surface".
    I think it would help to educate their customers. But I guess they would be shooting themselves in the
    foot if they did that, right? >>



    It would feel better knowing where your submission fee went if you could get an explanation as to why the coin did not grade.....

    TorinoCobra71

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    HonoluluDudeHonoluluDude Posts: 2,167 ✭


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    It would feel better knowing where your submission fee went if you could get an explanation as to why the coin did not grade.....

    TorinoCobra71 >>




    Exactly!

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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
    I completely agree

    -Paul
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wish PCGS would give a detailed summary on why they thought the coin was cleaned or deemed "altered surface".
    I think it would help to educate their customers. But I guess they would be shooting themselves in the
    foot if they did that, right? >>



    cleaned is often self-evident. Altered surface designation should have some sort of explanation.
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    HonoluluDudeHonoluluDude Posts: 2,167 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wish PCGS would give a detailed summary on why they thought the coin was cleaned or deemed "altered surface".
    I think it would help to educate their customers. But I guess they would be shooting themselves in the
    foot if they did that, right? >>



    cleaned is often self-evident. Altered surface designation should have some sort of explanation. >>



    Yeah, I was leaning more towards "Altered surface" or "Environmental damage", which is
    open for detailed interpretation. I haven't had any body bags yet, but if I do I would want
    to know why.
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    that stings
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    NowhereManNowhereMan Posts: 478


    << <i>I think they need to learn what a cleaned coin looks like. >>



    I think they just did! image

    Rex
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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
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    That is gonna hurt for a little while. Kinda hard to consider it a lesson if you don't learn anything from the experience and PCGS certainly doesn't seem to offer much guidance in these situations.

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    etexmike
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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just went thru a couple of pages of shared submissions, there seems to be one or a few bodybags on each submission. Is PCGS really TIGHT right now?!?!?!

    image

    TorinoCobra71 >>


    I just received grades on my 32 Dimes and 2 I sent in were Bagged. Sometimes you take a chance to see if PCGS will grade them. Not saying that this is what I did, but...

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
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    BlackBeardBlackBeard Posts: 1,064 ✭


    << <i>It would feel better knowing where your submission fee went if you could get an explanation as to why the coin did not grade.....

    TorinoCobra71 >>



    I agree, it would be very nice to have a brief note if nothing else on the reason. I received a body bag in my results today. It would make the lost grading fee sting somewhat less
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    AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303
    NGC has the following understanding the "No grade coin" designation in an eBook, I found it quite interesting:

    http://www.ngccoin.com/pdf/nograde.pdf
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like someone deserves an authentic "YOU SUCK" award image.

    Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody and be perfect !

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    andyisbakandyisbak Posts: 259
    my last submission to NGC of 6 $2.5 gold coins...all 6 were bb... all cleaned.... image

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is a certain amount of luck. One of the posters to this thread had a coin that PCGS graded come back as cleaned when he tried it again. Even PCGS is not consistent with this.
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    LickThoseStampsLickThoseStamps Posts: 1,028 ✭


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    << <i>I think they need to learn what a cleaned coin looks like. >>



    I think they just did! image >>



    I dunno. Maybe there are two more cleaned coins in PCGS holders.image
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    BacknBlackBacknBlack Posts: 49
    Detailed opinions take time. Time cost money.

    If enough submitters would be willing to pay $50 to $100 for the SERVICE, they'd probably provide it.

    Of course, very few of you would "pay" the additional cost for the info.

    You get what you pay for, or in this case what you don't.
    "There's no free lunch" MF
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    twodrhrdtptwodrhrdtp Posts: 1,025
    I wish PCGS would give a detailed summary on why they thought the coin was cleaned or deemed "altered surface".
    I think it would help to educate their customers. But I guess they would be shooting themselves in the
    foot if they did that, right? >>



    I guess they could just say --- EBAY PURCHASE instead
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    BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Incredible! image
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    OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭


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    I guess they could just say --- EBAY PURCHASE instead >>



    That is funny...image
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    a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
    My first invoice was just like that, you learn by doing. Hopefully that person takes the $60 worth of grading fees and turns it into thousands of dollars worth of knowledge...image
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    HonoluluDudeHonoluluDude Posts: 2,167 ✭


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    I guess they could just say --- EBAY PURCHASE instead >>



    Actually, I did come across a raw ebay-bought Walker that graded 65 recently.
    So you do find that needle in a haystack once in a (great) while. image

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