Nice early date Mexican 8 Reales...

MrEureka

Think it's from China?

coinkat

No one would go to the trouble of taking those pictures if it was from China....

Weiss

Whoa! 200 years before its discovery! Now that is an early piece.

JZrarities

Medieval Mexico.

ajaan

Mayan calendar?

lordmarcovan

Actually, if it weren't for that date, I would maybe have fallen for that one, since I am no specialist in those coins, having owned only one (an 1844-Zs holey on my vest).

I mean, the details look a bit hinky, but there were enough crude issues and contemporary counterfeits that those could account for its "off"-ness. In fact, I wouldn't put it past the early-19th century Mexicans to have had some illiterate person punching the dies in 1827.

But you're probably right- I hear twangy Asian music in the background.

Which brings to mind the Chinese restaurant we Darksiders ate at in Charlotte. Boy, that was great. Sorry you weren't with us, Andy, but I enjoyed meetin' you briefly on the floor.

bidask

that is hilarious!

TwoKopeiki

That's a scary coin - how's the edge on that thing? The eagle looks similar to Guadalajara 1825-1845 Die Style.

WillieBoyd2

Could be a primitive contemporary imitation/counterfeit.

Those have been on these boards before.

MrEureka

The eagle looks similar to Guadalajara 1825-1845 Die Style.

As it should.

TwoKopeiki

Re-cut dies

TwoKopeiki

What's interesting about this coin is that the error has been corrected, but coins made with corrected dies are also rare. There are only a few known with the original error and if someone specializing in Republic 8 Reales coinage (and deep pockets) will enter bidding on this lot - I see it going way over $10,000.

Thanks for posting this, Andy. I love researching something like this on a whim and learning about these fascinating issues.

1960NYGiants

<< <i>What's interesting about this coin is that the error has been corrected, but coins made with corrected dies are also rare. There are only a few known with the original error and if someone specializing in Republic 8 Reales coinage (and deep pockets) will enter bidding on this lot - I see it going way over $10,000.

Thanks for posting this, Andy. I love researching something like this on a whim and learning about these fascinating issues. >>



Do you actually think it's authentic? It's too obvious a mistake to leave the mint, isn't it?

MrEureka

It's real and in the upcoming Ponterio auction. I've only seen one other, in the Parker collection.

coinkat

Alittle late to be a presentation piece to Genghis Khan...

MrEureka

Lot 377

"1287"-FS. Error date. DP-Ga03. EX: Spink America "Pablo Gerber collection", 6/96 auction, lot #226 where it hammered for $8,500. EXTREMELY RARE, only 4 known examples. This die cutting error was probably discovered and corrected rather quickly, accounting for the great rarity of this variety. The following lot is an example from the corrected die. A few light scratches on the reverse field, lightly cleaned,
EXTREMELY FINE.

[6000.-9000.]


And here's a picture of a coin struck from the corrected dies.

coinkat

very cool