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perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
Wang out for the first month? Pettite got back problems? Whats going on in NY Softparade????

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pettitte had back spasms Perk ..... not back PROBLEMS. He has had them off and on forever .... no big deal. Wang strained his hammy and will be out the first few weeks of the season. Again, no big deal. If he hurt his elbow or shoulder it would not be good image The Yanks are flush with solid solid young talent in AAA that can come up and make spot starts in April.

    Not sugar coating nothing either ..... no big deal image

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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Better off having these little bumps in the road in march and april than in september and october.

    Maybe the Sox can get a game or two ahead of the Yanks for those few weeks before they are overtaken for good by early may image
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!!











  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>



    The only thing of yours thats gonna give me a rise is your sig line pic image
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PATIENCE perk doggy .... PATIENCE!!

    Wait till D-Mat 2 hits the Yanks in April or May and you will have your wish image

    IF THAT HAPPENS

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Wow - you guys are kidding, right?

    Wang, no ace to begin with, is expected to be sidelined for "at least a month" according to reports. Pettitte is coming back to the AL, where I already mentioned how AL bats have owned him over the last three seasons during interleague play (and, this is if Pettitte is even healthy enough to pitch). Mussina? He apparently is barely hitting 85mph with his fastball this spring, and he himself has told reporters he is "not happy" with his pitching. That leaves Carl "my butt hurts" Pavano as your Opening Day starter!! image

    You guys can't tell me you are not concerned.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>

    It's the Yankees. They can buy whatever deficiencies they have before the trade deadline.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love ya Jerry!

    Can't wait till the old geezer Schilling and the WAY over-rated Beckett sink like stones leaving your 100 million dollar man as your savior image

    Oh, and Johnny Papelbon finally blows out his arm in the closer role. Oh boy I can't wait to start my PUT A FORK IN THE RED SOX THREAD

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>

    It's the Yankees. They can buy whatever deficiencies they have before the trade deadline. >>



    Please, its been two years since the Yankees stopped behaving like this ..... image

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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    All this early smack talk has me thinking sig line bet image
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>All this early smack talk has me thinking sig line bet image >>



    Softy, Bri, I know you guys will give me a shot at redemption this year...Correct? Division loser dons the others colors for 1 month......Im in again, you guys?


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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>

    It's the Yankees. They can buy whatever deficiencies they have before the trade deadline. >>



    I don't see this happening. The only deficiency I can see them having is pitching, and the Yanks, like everyone else, would have to really overpay to acquire decent arms before the trade deadline. I think Cashman, who strikes me as a pretty intelligent guy, has learned his lesson from the Pavano/Johnson debacles, and is committed to bringing up young arms as opposed to buying pitching talent on the free agent market.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>

    It's the Yankees. They can buy whatever deficiencies they have before the trade deadline. >>



    I don't see this happening. The only deficiency I can see them having is pitching, and the Yanks, like everyone else, would have to really overpay to acquire decent arms before the trade deadline. I think Cashman, who strikes me as a pretty intelligent guy, has learned his lesson from the Pavano/Johnson debacles, and is committed to bringing up young arms as opposed to buying pitching talent on the free agent market. >>



    I think you are correct - unless another Bobby Abreu type deal presents itself to them (a pitcher this time) - I think the Yanks would jump on it especially if they find themselves trailing big time in the division come July or August.
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>image C'MON!! I cant get more of a rise out of you guys!!! >>

    It's the Yankees. They can buy whatever deficiencies they have before the trade deadline. >>



    I don't see this happening. The only deficiency I can see them having is pitching, and the Yanks, like everyone else, would have to really overpay to acquire decent arms before the trade deadline. I think Cashman, who strikes me as a pretty intelligent guy, has learned his lesson from the Pavano/Johnson debacles, and is committed to bringing up young arms as opposed to buying pitching talent on the free agent market. >>



    I think you are correct - unless another Bobby Abreu type deal presents itself to them (a pitcher this time) - I think the Yanks would jump on it especially if they find themselves trailing big time in the division come July or August. >>



    Good point. If a Tim Hudson type became available then the picture may change. But I thought it was pretty revealing that the Yanks didn't land Jason Schmidt this past offseason, since he seems like exactly the type of player that the Brian Cashman of 2003 would have aggressively pursued and inked to some kind of a deal.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Good point. If a Tim Hudson type became available then the picture may change. But I thought it was pretty revealing that the Yanks didn't land Jason Schmidt this past offseason, since he seems like exactly the type of player that the Brian Cashman of 2003 would have aggressively pursued and inked to some kind of a deal. >>



    Cashman has been working on stocking alot of good arms in AAA and AA. Thankfully getting rid of malcontents Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield with the future in mind. Those who dislike the Yankees have dismissed this for the most part. The Yankees have arms in the minors which they have not had in a long time.

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    I don't dismiss it - I know Hughes is on the way to NY and he's supposed to be very good. Most of the other young arms that have actually pitched in the Bronx recently haven't been all that great yet. But, I do agree that Cashman has dumped some salary and the Yanks appear to be trying to develop their farm system for a change. However - do not confuse them with the Oakland A's (or Boston, for that matter) just yet - old habits die hard, and if the Yanks are losing - they will no doubt break out the checkbook.
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yep, we shall see ..... ITS A GREAT TIME OF THE YEAR image

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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,243 ✭✭✭
    Im sure if the Bosox are in the mix, they will have no problem breaking out that checkbook either. The hunt of the playoffs can make anything happen.

    Being a Yanks fan, I do like the strength of the Yanks farm system. Humberto Sanchez, Ty Clippard (who I actually think may end up being better than Hughes over the years to come), and of course Philip Hughes.....and even Karstens.

    Trying my best to be impartial, if both Yanks and Bosox have rotation problems, I would have to give the edge to the Yanks to pull through in better shape.

    Both teams have a rotation that could be the best in the bigs this year....or the most heartbreaking.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it will be a long season for both teams...pitching health-wise. That's not going out on a limb too far, I don't think.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cashman has been working on stocking alot of good arms in AAA and AA. Thankfully getting rid of malcontents Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield with the future in mind. Those who dislike the Yankees have dismissed this for the most part. The Yankees have arms in the minors which they have not had in a long time. >>

    I think it's too early to declare that these are the "new" Yankees. Remember, George is still in charge. I will agree, though, that they are definitely beginning to realize that even with money it sucks to rebuild each year with old, wheezing players to replace older, even more wheezing players. They plucked their farm system bare, trading away prospects for stars from teams who didn't want to pay them, and that practice reached critical mass 2-3 years ago when the playoffs made it obvious that the Yankees were just too old -- and didn't have the right *team* make up -- to win the championship.

    They are showing signs of realizing that throwing top dollar at the biggest names and biggest stars only goes so far. It's enough to buy your way into the playoffs but not a very good way of winning them. Again, though, as long as The Boss is in charge, I don't know how much patience will be given to young prospects to let them prosper in the majors.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zig,

    George has distanced himself ALOT in the past two years. He is no longer on top of all decisions and plans ....although Cashman still has to get his approval for most moves. Never-the-less, George has given up alot of the reign in New York.

    oh, and I didn't declare anything .... all I stated was the fact that the Yankees have more strong and talented arms in the minors then they have had in a long long time image

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>George has distanced himself ALOT in the past two years. He is no longer on top of all decisions and plans ....although Cashman still has to get his approval for most moves. Never-the-less, George has given up alot of the reign in New York. >>

    The Yanks will be in good shape if he keeps it that way. If you hire the best baseball people who know more about baseball than you, the best thing you can do is move to the sidelines and let them make the moves. Unless you think you know more than them, in which case, why pay top dollar for the best GMs and field managers?

    I'm just not convinced George can keep his mitts off the team and out of player personnel decisions for long.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I'm just not convinced George can keep his mitts off the team and out of player personnel decisions for long. >>



    You may be right but I think his health and his family have made this decision for him. That is how I take it after listening to and reading everything I can find on a weekly basis.

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