Someday i hope you share pictures of your set. I know it is REALLY a highly graded set so there are issues regarding being held hostage, but those of us who swim in a VERY small pond live vicariously through major sets like the ones you collect. Looking forward to more on this subject.
Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
<< <i>Someday i hope you share pictures of your set. I know it is REALLY a highly graded set so there are issues regarding being held hostage, but those of us who swim in a VERY small pond live vicariously through major sets like the ones you collect. Looking forward to more on this subject. >>
Cool set! I entered my meager group of Seated coins, and am in position #2, behind TDN. Additions will come very slowly for me, so I don't expect to stay near the top for long, but it's easy to do when there are only 3 sets registered.
That looks like a really neat set to work on. I know that while working on my Dansco Type Album the seated dollars are pricey. The twenty center and trade dollar aren't as bad but still can be a little expensive. As for the others I don't know.
What are the tough holes to fill and are there any real stoppers in this set for an average collector?
Well, with the exception of the Gobrechts and 3 other pieces I had this set nearly complete a few years ago (NGC coins included) but moved in another direction. Always late to dinner.
<< <i>The real stoppers will be the Gobrechts and the no drapery 1839 half. >>
I agree with that. Among the Gobrechts, the 1839 Original was nearly impossible to find for my clients. I think the PCGS price guide has it woefully underpriced! I think only 14 or so originals of that date have been certified in all. This is a real stopper. 1836 Gobreccts are common by comparison.
Althought the 1839 No Drapery Half is tough in AU and better, I find the No Drapery quarter equally as tough by comparison, maybe even tougher than the half in high grades.
One must remember that PCGS went through a revision of what they'll certify as an original gobrecht. This fact means that there are many coins that would be considered originals today in restrike holders. In fact, I bought my 1836 [issue of 1837] original in an old restrike holder and got it recertified. You may need to do the same on behalf of your clients...
<< <i>One must remember that PCGS went through a revision of what they'll certify as an original gobrecht. This fact means that there are many coins that would be considered originals today in restrike holders. In fact, I bought my 1836 [issue of 1837] original in an old restrike holder and got it recertified. You may need to do the same on behalf of your clients... >>
Thre's a problem with that approach which is significant, however. Until the coin is out of the slab, and I wouldn't buy a raw one for a client, one is not sure what PCGS will do. I wouldn't risk serious money on behalf of the client unless I knew for sure of the designation. The edge might tell the story, but in the holder, how would I know? Just by reverse die orientation? Even that approach is not always reliaible as far as a PCGS variety designation.
It's not the edge, it's the alignment and perfection of the die state. For the 1839, look for die alignment IV [medal turn, eagle level] and absolutely no die cracks in the reverse legend or die rust pits on the obverse. That type and state of coin will now be certified as an original.
I've be watching for worthwhile no drapery 25c's and 50c's to buy for the past 5 years. The quarters definitely outnumber the halves. There might be one MS63 or MS64 half on the market at any one time yet probably a half dozen to dozen quarters. The quarters come nicer as well. I've seen a number of the MS63-67's halves and most are disappointing. Yet I've seen a few of the gem MS 65-68 quarters and most of them are rather pleasing. I've yet to see a MS64 or better no drapery half in hand that I actually liked.
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
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<< <i>Someday i hope you share pictures of your set. I know it is REALLY a highly graded set so there are issues regarding being held hostage, but those of us who swim in a VERY small pond live vicariously through major sets like the ones you collect. Looking forward to more on this subject. >>
follow this link for every picture I have loaded into the Set Registry
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Just spectacular.
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I plan to pursue this set despite that PCGS is trying to break me with those two Gobrecht dollars. Who else considers them to be patterns?
Sorry, but these days they're considered to be part of the regular issue series.
<< <i>Who else considers them to be patterns?
Sorry, but these days they're considered to be part of the regular issue series. >>
I will sell a kidney and make it work. Or maybe a gold coin or two.
Edit: Nah, let's stick with the kidney idea.
Jim
What are the tough holes to fill and are there any real stoppers in this set for an average collector?
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Complete Dime Set
Bruce Scher
EDIT: Scher that set is amazing! got any pics?
roadrunner
<< <i>The real stoppers will be the Gobrechts and the no drapery 1839 half. >>
I agree with that. Among the Gobrechts, the 1839 Original was nearly impossible to find for my clients. I think the PCGS price guide has it woefully underpriced! I think only 14 or so originals of that date have been certified in all. This is a real stopper. 1836 Gobreccts are common by comparison.
Althought the 1839 No Drapery Half is tough in AU and better, I find the No Drapery quarter equally as tough by comparison, maybe even tougher than the half in high grades.
Ira
<< <i>One must remember that PCGS went through a revision of what they'll certify as an original gobrecht. This fact means that there are many coins that would be considered originals today in restrike holders. In fact, I bought my 1836 [issue of 1837] original in an old restrike holder and got it recertified. You may need to do the same on behalf of your clients... >>
Thre's a problem with that approach which is significant, however. Until the coin is out of the slab, and I wouldn't buy a raw one for a client, one is not sure what PCGS will do. I wouldn't risk serious money on behalf of the client unless I knew for sure of the designation. The edge might tell the story, but in the holder, how would I know? Just by reverse die orientation? Even that approach is not always reliaible as far as a PCGS variety designation.
Ira
Bruce Scher
There might be one MS63 or MS64 half on the market at any one time yet probably a half dozen to dozen quarters. The quarters come nicer as well. I've seen a number of the MS63-67's halves and most are disappointing. Yet I've seen a few of the gem MS 65-68 quarters and most of them are rather pleasing. I've yet to see a MS64 or better no drapery half in hand that I actually liked.
roadrunner
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)