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How the hell did I get ripped off?

Picked up a 55 topps spahn "NM-MT" almost perfect blah blah blah. Upon receipt, card had 2 rubber band marks! I asked for refund and seller is giving me a song and dance. I figured I'd just resell it, or whatever. The cards was in a real "super" extra scratched up holder, but to the close eye I could see the rubber band marks. Asked again for a refund and no response. Just for "fun I took the card out of the holder, and it is TRIMMED also! WTF??? I have had terrible luck with ebay lately. I have returned or tried to return 5 yes FIVE items not as described. I emailed the seller again, but I need to file with paypal tomorrow. DAMN! how long do you have to file with paypal? What about fraud charges? CRAP! Only 70 bucks but STILL UGGHHHimageimageimageimage

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  • bad luck. somehow I have never been able to bring myself to bid on raw cards that seem to good to be true e.g. a raw NM-MT 55 Spahn. I just don't see these cards being out of holders unless it is done with not the best of intentions if you get my drift. File with paypal asap but fraud charges? Hmmmmm.....not worth the effort.
    Mark B.

    Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards

    My PSA Registry Sets

    34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
  • Maybe it's just me, but I believe there are some collectors out there who loathe card grading and in turn just do not get their cards graded. That said, you can find cards in said condition on eBay...obviously you're rollin' the dice, but it does happen.


    Edited to say I agree with cravetopps...Paypal, but no fraud
  • mealewormmealeworm Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭
    Link to the auctions??? Who is the seller so we can stay away???

    Dave
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    1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
    Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Edited to say I agree with cravetopps...Paypal, but no fraud.."

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    I agree.

    BUT, I am getting reports that PayPal is getting pickey
    on the SNAD claims/disputes. They have allegedly been
    asking buyers to submit the cards to a TPG when disputes
    about condition arise.

    PayPal is the child of the devil.


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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Again thats why I buy only graded cards on ebay, it saves me so much grief.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Seller nevers sells cards, and he had a decent scan. Ya think he knows it trimmed? I am going to file with PP tomorrow, just frustrating lately. I paid close to a NM price, now I know why it is so well centered ARGGHHH


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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Guys feedback should have turned me off
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not for nothing but that card sure does look sweeeet.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not for nothing but that card sure does look sweeeet. >>



    Sheer G_R_E_E_D_ on my part, if it' too good to be true/..... D"OH@!
  • half the bottom (right half) looks chipped or trimmed. nice looking card.....too bad.
    Mark B.

    Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards

    My PSA Registry Sets

    34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    You really have to incorporate the risk-factor in your final bid. Still, you can find good raw on ebay contrary to popular belief.

    Lee
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Still, you can find good raw on ebay contrary to popular belief."

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    I will just continue to stay away from it so that
    there will be more of it for the rest of you folks.


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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Still, you can find good raw on ebay contrary to popular belief."

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    I will just continue to stay away from it so that
    there will be more of it for the rest of you folks.


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    So will I
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭✭
    I only buy raw and I've found some nice stuff.
    Moreso at local shows than ebay, but there is fine stuff on there.

    John
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< "Still, you can find good raw on ebay contrary to popular belief." >>>

    Depends on the "raw" - commons raw from the 50's and 60's?...yes, some good higher grade raw can sometimes be found. Star cards raw from the 50's and 60's?...the odds are strongly against you these days, if not close to impossible, of finding higher grade raw star cards from the 50's and 60's which will grade what you think from the scan they might grade, and getting any kind of "good deal" on them. Late 60's you got a little shot of success - earlier 60's and 50's forgetaboutit - the chances are close to zero. Not too many, if any, "babes in the woods" anymore when it comes to vintage baseball cards. Even early 70's to mid-70's is getting very tough these days to find bargains on star cards raw which will grade high.



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