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Just neg'ed a newbie

Don't know what some people are thinking. Guy registers March 28, 2005, has zero feedback when he hits my "buy it now" for $100 on Feb 26th, 2007. Send him an invoice, 7 days later re-send the invoice, 3 days later file a non paying bidder alert with ebay, wait the 7 days, no response, get my FVF refund. Then drop the bomb "No response, no payment. FVF fee refunded, Unpaid strike given by ebay."
Add to blocked bidder list.
Why dig up an account from almost 2 years ago just to have it go negative in 3 weeks?

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  • can he neg you after he receives a strike?
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "can he neg you after he receives a strike? "

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    Not in this case.

    He failed to respond to the UID.
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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"can he neg you after he receives a strike? " >>



    Doesn't matter to me if he did, or could. I have over 4500 positives, one neg from a non-payer with no decent excuse wouldn't bother me.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"can he neg you after he receives a strike? "

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    Not in this case.

    He failed to respond to the UID. >>



    Storm - this "can or can't" issue is very interesting to me - what is a UID? Some sort of birth control device?
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think in the minds of these jackasses that they probably think that maybe, just maybe by "accident" the merchandise could be shipped out since they ordered it, then of course they wouldn't pay for it. Really they've got nothing to lose, they can simply close that account or wait to be naru'd, and then simply open up another account. Ebay truly is a scammer's delight.

    With a few simple changes Ebay could eliminate virtually all scamming but evidently they wouldn't make as much money or they would have done so by now. One thing they should have is to allow sellers to determine who bids on their auctions. Now you can only block somebody with I think it's a -1 feedback. If I had my way I'd block everybody with less than 10 feedback and on my more expensive items, I'd block everybody with less that 50 feedback.

    Also they should allow sellers to block bidders who do not have a confirmed PayPal address - I mean it is the same f*ing company for crying out loud - they could easily do this if they wanted to. Unconfirmed PayPal addresses are another scammer's delight.



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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>what is a UID? Some sort of birth control device? >>


    I was thinking the same thing, then I consulted my Stormbonics to English dictionary:
    UID- Unpaid Item Dispute, see also NPB- Non Paying Bidder, see also TURD- just like it sounds
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"can he neg you after he receives a strike? "

    ///////////////////////////////////

    Not in this case.

    He failed to respond to the UID. >>



    UID is Unpaid Item Dispute.

    That's interesting - I thought the seller could still receive a neg - that's good to know.
  • All new or Zero feedback bidders should be forced into a probationary period where they have to contact the buyers first to ask permission.

    I contact every single zero feedback bidder on every auction i list and politely ask for their shipping/contact info and a real email address. That seems to weed out a lot of the troublemakers. 90% Think its no big deal since they are "new" or havent bid on anything in 3 years or whatever.

    Last year one of my zero feedbackers ended up spending $2,000 bucks with me after an intitial auction went so well.

    Every single non paying bidder i have ever had prior to my zero feedback screening policy was from a zero ranked bidder.

    Yeah, we all started with zero and you have to start somewhere, but take 30 seconds to reply to an email and we wont have any problems.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>"can he neg you after he receives a strike? "

    ///////////////////////////////////

    Not in this case.

    He failed to respond to the UID. >>



    UID is Unpaid Item Dispute.

    That's interesting - I thought the seller could still receive a neg - that's good to know. >>

    Very good to know indeed!

    I'm currently dealing with an 8 feedback person that is not planning on paying either. He has 4 more days to respond to my UID.

    I'm loking foward to neging him now image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "I'm loking foward to neging him now "

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    Simply make sure he has NOT responded to the
    Unpaid Item Dispute (UID) before it is closed.

    You can time the closing down to the minute.
    Once you close, your bidder is frozen out of
    the FB game.

    If he responds before the deadline, he CAN
    leave FB; even though he is a deadbeat.

    Make sure to block the bidder before you leave
    any FB. (Otherwise, he may bring havoc upon
    your listings.)

    NOTE: This has been talked about before, but
    may be worth repeating:

    Even though allowing NPBs to leave FB seems
    grossly unfair, it really is the only way to be fair.
    MANY bidders do not pay because they learn -
    after the auction closes - that the seller is a
    scamster. Thus, barring these bidders from
    leaving FB would deprive others from the chance
    to be warned about a bad seller. (Sadly, this
    also works to the detriment of honest sellers,
    and allows bad bidders to harm such sellers.)
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,131 ✭✭✭✭
    How come deadbeat sellers don't lose their "leave feedback" privledges like deadbeat buyers do? And this also why I don't allow Ebayers with zero or less feedback.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "How come deadbeat sellers don't lose their "leave feedback"
    privledges like deadbeat buyers do? "

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    That is a VERY good question.

    I will read-up on that, and report back.

    My current understanding is that ANY non-filing party
    to a dispute is obligated to respond in the dispute panel.
    Failure to do so within the time-limit, should block FB
    from the non-filer; buyer or seller.

    DO NOT take that to the bank, until I read the related TOS,
    again.

    If it is not the case, it should be.
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  • JdurgJdurg Posts: 997


    << <i>Also they should allow sellers to block bidders who do not have a confirmed PayPal address - I mean it is the same f*ing company for crying out loud - they could easily do this if they wanted to. Unconfirmed PayPal addresses are another scammer's delight.



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    Before they do that, they'd need to improve their address confirming procedure. I have been a PayPal member for about 7 years now and have "Verified" status. A few years back, I went to "confirm" my address after having a seller request that I do that and went through the whole process in PayPal. PayPal supposedly sent some letter to my home that contained a passcode that I needed to enter online. The thing is, they either never sent it or the mail lost it.

    A few months later, I called their support line and was told "We sent out the passcode to you on XXXXX. If you haven't received it yet then there is nothing we can do but tell you to wait for it to arrive." Years have gone by and it never arrived. I asked them if they could send another passcode to my address and they replied by saying "No, we can not do that. Unless you enter the original code we sent you we can not confirm your address."

    Therefore, thanks to PayPal's laziness and mental retardation, I can NEVER have a confirmed address. I am a verified member and have made hundreds of transactions without any problems, but I'm not a confirmed address. Therefore, if someone was able to block unconfirmed addresses from bidding on their auctions I would be screwed along with every other PayPal member that PayPal has bent over.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Also they should allow sellers to block bidders who
    do not have a confirmed PayPal address."

    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    Sadly, as noted above, that would not be practical.

    BUT, you can state in your listingns:

    "This Item Can ONLY Ship To A PayPal Confirmed Address."

    If you say it three/four time in a listing, most people see it.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Also they should allow sellers to block bidders who
    do not have a confirmed PayPal address."

    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    Sadly, as noted above, that would not be practical.

    BUT, you can state in your listingns:

    "This Item Can ONLY Ship To A PayPal Confirmed Address."

    If you say it three/four time in a listing, most people see it. >>



    Well I know I'm preaching to the choir here, and ebay certainly ain't listening, but perhaps PayPal shouldn't be so closed minded with somebody being verified but the address is not confirmed - because right now if you ship to an unconfirmed address and the buyer says he didn't receive it...it's case closed the seller loses - to the best of my knowledge there are no exceptions to this.

    On my more expensive auctions (expensive to me anyway - LOL) of around $100 or more, I do state that if you're using PayPal it must be a "confirmed" address - and about 1/4 of the time the winning bidder is an unconfirmed address anyway.

    Oh well...again...it's no use ranting too much about this because King Ebay and Emperor PayPal are going to do whatever they want anyway - that's in their best profit making interests.



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  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭


    << <i>"can he neg you after he receives a strike? "

    ///////////////////////////////////

    Not in this case.

    He failed to respond to the UID. >>



    When eBay made those changes last year (not seeing bidders over $200, etc.) This is one of the best changes they made and for that I must applaud eBay!!! They made their first decision to benefit the seller.
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