Paypal and Ebay Auction
grote15
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This seller obviously distrusts Paypal but when he listed the auction he listed Paypal as an acceptable form for payment. My question is: what would happen if the winning bidder insisted on sending payment through Paypal? Would the seller be obligated to accept the payment despite his disclaimer? Thoughts anyone?
1967 Cello Pack
1967 Cello Pack
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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wow. he must have had a very bad day.
Of course, this is a violation of ebay's seller policy and would fall under seller non-performance. It can be reported to ebay and could have consequences for the seller.
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he is using their logo. Also, EBAY's TOS do not allow the
use of the PP logo, UNLESS the seller accepts PayPal.
The logo is a draw to millions of customers. PP/EBAY does not
want customers to be fooled into bidding on something and
then be surprised about a change in payment methods.
The subject seller is obviously angry, but he is making a big
mistake with this kind of conduct.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Buyers use the search tool for sellers who take paypal, brings more buyers to his listings.
Buyers use the search tool for sellers who take paypal, brings more buyers to his listings.
I understand your point, but it doesn't seem to be worth the potential hassle if the buyer want to pay via Paypal, or receives a refunded Paypal payment from the seller, and then complains to Ebay about it.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> Because he is using Paypal as a search tool.
Buyers use the search tool for sellers who take paypal, brings more buyers to his listings.
I understand your point, but it doesn't seem to be worth the potential hassle if the buyer want to pay via Paypal, and complains the Ebay about it. >>
I agree with you, but no one has reported him.
I have always read that you should never leave large amounts of $$$ in your paypal account just for this reason.
Of course if something like this did happen and you had little to no money in your paypal account to cover the mishap, you would likely have to close your paypal account for good otherwise, paypal would eventually get their $$$ back.
<< <i>I have contacted the seller.He still lists paypal because he sill uses paypal to make purchases.If he were to stop listing paypal as a form of payment,then he can not use paypal to make a purchase. >>
WTF?
Where did you get this information from? This is BS!!!
This is "NOT" a true statement and what the seller is doing is against ebay and paypal's policy.
Seller has been reported.
Read Storm's post above. Pretty Clear Statement. The seller is wrong.
<< <i>He still lists paypal because he sill uses paypal to make purchases.If he were to stop listing paypal as a form of payment,then he can not use paypal to make a purchase >>
That's a load of crap.
Russ, NCNE
he can not use paypal to make a purchase."
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Nonsense.
The seller is gaming the search function to assure that
the search-preference "accepts PayPal" displays his listings.
<< <i>Slow day on the coin forums? >>
I'm over here expanding my knowledge.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I think you guys are reading waaaaaaaay too much into this. The seller is a good guy with some nice product,who obviously got burned by Paypal. Send an M.O. End of Story!! >>
Nope, end of story will be when seller removes his statement or ebay removes his listings.
ALWAYS EMPTY YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT
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<< <i>Slow day on the coin forums? >>
I'm over here expanding my knowledge.
Russ, NCNE >>
It's pretty much the same concept, except we overpay for cardboard rather than metal
<< <i>I do not know how they would do it.I know that with me it was only 153.00.So it was no huge loss.But it still bother the heck out of me knowing that they could just do that.Now I just withdraw the money as soon as a buyer makes a payment.That way unless they are watching and waiting,I get the money out in case it happens again. >>
And you just got ripped off by the Labarcas aka All Sport Cards for $318 using a personal check.
You're having quite a year, aren't you Dboyz20?
got burned by Paypal. Send an M.O. End of Story!! "
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That is likely very true.
I only addressed the rule violations and their consequences.
Most folks who get in a spraying match with PayPal have a
pretty legitimate gripe; but, the way the subject seller is
dealing with that gripe simply exposes him/her to further
woes.
I am far from a PayPal booster.
This seller also can be reported for...
Seller Non-Performance
When a seller lists an item on eBay, and a buyer bids for and wins that item, the seller and buyer have entered into a contract. Both members are expected to honor that contract. In accordance with that contract, the seller may not:
Fail to deliver an item for which payment was accepted.
Significantly misrepresent an item by not meeting the terms and item description outlined in the listing.
Refuse to accept payment for an item at the end of a successful sale.
Further, sellers are expected to perform in a manner that results in a consistently high level of buyer satisfaction. If a seller's interactions with the eBay community create unacceptable levels of buyer dissatisfaction, that seller has violated this policy.
Violations of this policy by a Seller may result in a range of actions, including:
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Selling fee schedule adjustments
Loss of PowerSeller status
Referral to Law Enforcement
A buyer who believes that a seller has not honored a contract should read the Additional Information section below to understand what remedies are available to the buyer.
<< <i>Why does everyone care so much? There are tons more dangerous Ebay listings and dishonesty than this. Shouldn't we report the outright frauds first over a guy who is mad at Paypal? >>
WHY? Because he is wrong.
PayPal Payments Policy
Sellers who offer PayPal as a payment option in their eBay listings (either via logos or through text in the item description) must accept card funded payments. Sellers must have a Premier or Business PayPal Account or be willing to upgrade from a Personal PayPal Account to a Premier or Business Account upon receipt of a card funded payment. Sellers may not communicate to buyers that they only accept account balance or bank account funded payments, or will not accept card funded payments. eCheck is the only funding source that eBay sellers are allowed to block.
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
Listing cancellation
Forfeiture of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Limits on account privileges
Loss of PowerSeller status
Account suspension
Report his a$$...
Sign into eBay first & Then click here to Contact eBay Customer Support & Report all of his listings.
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Of course.
All sellers have an interest in helping to make sure that
EBAY buyers do not have a bad experience. The subject
seller has created a set of circumstances that will/may
lead to buyers getting turned-off about EBAY.
I am sympathetic to the seller's complaint. And, the
breaking of the rules does not promote his cause.
If the seller no longer wishes to accept Paypal for whatever reason, that's fine, but listing Paypal as an acceptable payment method while doing so is dishonest and in violation of ebay regulations. I'm sure there are many other sellers who don't accept Paypal who'd like to use the Paypal logo in their auctions to generate increased traffic.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
And therein lies that great truth: Paypal is great protection for buyers, not so much at all for sellers. The drawback, though, is that if you're a seller who doesn't accept Paypal you're going to lose many potential bidders who feel just as you do, with good reason. But if you've made the decision as a seller to cut out Paypal as a payment method, you ought to stick to your decision and not dupe a potential buyer with a Paypal logo but a so-called "disclaimer" in the listing.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Good advice. I do believe, though, that if a chargeback is made on a Paypal account with a zero balance, that it will result in a "negative" balance and that any subsequent payments that come through will be applied to the negative balance, so it's best to keep a keen eye on the Paypal activity.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.