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Name the Only 300/300/300/3000 Player

BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭
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300+ stolen bases = speed
300+ home runs = power
.300+ average = accuracy
3000+ hits = longevity

There's only one player with these stats. Do these numbers make him the greatest player of all time? Why or why not?

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  • mcholkemcholke Posts: 1,000 ✭✭
    Willie Mays

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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rickey Henderson was pretty close.
    Mike
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭
    He's very high in the conversation, that's for sure.

    I do wish Mr. Aaron got more play, though. He had a career .305 average, 3,700 hits and over 200 steals. He never ran much until Bobby Bragan encouraged him in the early 60's. He was a much better defender than he's remembered as, as well. There isn't a whole lot of difference between him and Mays, to my mind.
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    I dont know if it makes him the greatest player of all time or not, But it definately makes him one of the most versatile.you can add to the fact that he was also a great fielder.
    Should we say because he has great stats in a lot of categories, but not the best stats in any that he is the greatest. Again, I dont know.
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  • ChippyChippy Posts: 66
    Pete Rose????
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭
    mcholke got it with the first answer.
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  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    NO, those 'club' milestones don't make that player the best ever. The fact that it is Willie Mays and his true/more precise meaurements make him a top ten player is a different story.

    But, just because a guy eclipses arbitrary stepping stones, and the fact that each of those measurements are given equal weight, makes it more of a 'neat' exercise, as opposed to a truth in measurement.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Skin I am very suprised you did not break out charts and graphs backing up your statement. image
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Barry Bonds could join the club soon.
    Mike
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  • gotsparks09gotsparks09 Posts: 957
    300+ stolen bases = speed
    300+ home runs = power
    .300+ average = accuracy
    3000+ hits = longevity

    That's good and all, but when you look at them like this, it's truely amazing:

    300+ stolen bases = speed
    650+ home runs = power
    .300+ average = accuracy
    3200+ hits = longevity


    Best of all time? Probably not, but he's definitely top 5 in most people's minds, especially when it comes to hitting. Keep in mind he's also one of only 3 players to have ever gotten 500+ HRs and 3,000+ hits.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    You mean 4 players?

    mays

    aaron

    murray

    palmiero


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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    "Greatest player ever" cannot be even considered unless the player was unquestionably dominant in their sport during their career. In my mind, Jordan, Gretzky, Tiger Woods, and Roger Federer could only be even considered as the greatest player ever in their sport due to the sheer dominance they've had over the years they've played.

    No doubt Mays was phenomenal, but greatest ever? I think it's a stretch.

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  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    It's funny, on a number of occasions I've seen Palmeiro omitted from the discussion of players with 3000 hits and 500 HRs. Palmeiro's infamous day occurred on March 18, 2005. However, he was suspended on August 2, 2005. This article here states that baseball refuses to state when the positive test occurred.

    Link

    Isn't it conceivable that the positive test occurred after March 18, 2005 and he was telling the truth?

    As for the 300, 300, 300 and 3000, Craig Biggio is close, but has no chance with the BA. He has 281 HR, 410 SB, 2930 Hits and a .283 BA. Steve Finley has 303 HR, 320 SB, 2531 Hits and a .272 BA. (He's also the active leader in 3B with 124).

    Couple of years ago, I "developed" my own arbitrary club, e.g. the 600 club. 250 Hits, 50 HRs, 150 RBIs and 150 Runs. I was sure no one had these numbers in history. I was wrong. I believe there are 4.

    1. Babe Ruth (1921) - 204 Hits, 59 HRs, 171 RBIs and 177 Runs = 611;
    2. Chuck Klein (1930) - 250 Hits, 40 HRs, 170 RBIs and 158 Runs = 618;
    3. Hack Wilson (1930) - 208 Hits, 56 HRs, 191 RBIs and 146 Runs = 601; and
    4. Lou Gehrig (1931) - 211 Hits, 46 HRs, 184 RBIs and 163 Runs = 604.

    Those are some crazy numbers.

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • williplettwilliplett Posts: 471 ✭✭
    Is it too late to guess Mario Mendoza?
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    I always liked how they factor in career stats in the HOF tracker. That is some serious math.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    infamous day occurred on March 18, 2005.


    They play baseball in march?

    did you mean may?


    Steve
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  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    Perk, no charts. sorry image

    Speaking of clubs, remember the .300, 30HR, 100RBI club for a season? THat was considered an elite season, and a mark of an 'all around' hitter(even though hitting is a singular round...the creation of runs, as that is the singular purpose). BUt anyway, because of the environment change in the baseball landscape, that isn't much of an exclusive club anymore.
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