Roger Clemens - will he play??
ROCKETMAN
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As a HUGE collector of the Rocket I'm hoping he will play one more year as I believe he would still be effective. One reason for that is he would not be pitching a full season.
PS: Anyone have any of his insert cards from 94-99. I need them all - do have a want list is this would help.
Thanks, Rich
PS: Anyone have any of his insert cards from 94-99. I need them all - do have a want list is this would help.
Thanks, Rich
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<< <i>As a pretty big Clemens fan myself, I would prefer to see him ride off in the sunset gracefully and on top of his game. Seeing as that probably won't happen, I think he will pitch again when June comes around. Best story of course, is coming back to Boston to "end it where it all began". Then again, with the way things go, he'll probably pitch for the Yankees and p* off all the Astros and Red Sox fans. >>
Yep. He'll probably go off about the tradition and all that junk, snubbing his hometown and the place where he made his mark on the game. And to add insult to injury he'll probably try to get into Cooperstown wearing those stupid pinstripes.
Pretty sure most, if not all, Astros fans feel the same way.
<< <i>Personally, I have no problem if he passes on the 'Stros for the Yanks or Sox...
Pretty sure most, if not all, Astros fans feel the same way. >>
Sure. It's not like the 'Stros win much for him anyway.
The proof that Clemens has been the most dominant pitcher in all of baseball for the last two years is that he's the only guy who can regularly shut down BOTH offenses when he pitches.
But, a few weeks before that, he said Clemens was a lock to pitch for the Yankees. So, who really knows? The best story would be for him to cap off his career where it started, in Boston. And, this might be a great season for him to be a part of things at Fenway again...
<< <i> . So, who really knows? ... >>
I agree, nobody can read the Rocket. And Jerry, you are over hyping your Sox again
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Roger, do us all a favor and either pitch or just retire
Clemens is insulting the whole game with his self-absorbed, "I am above the game" actions.
This is what Clemens must be thinking- "I am so good, that I do not need to attend spring training. Who wants to hang out with all those losers anyway? Then, lets see who is sitting pretty come June, and maybe I will decide to play". Oh, and do not forget about his contract clause last year that allowed him to stay home during away trips.
Gee, talk about team spirit. Last I checked the season started in April and lasted 162 games.
I had respect for Clemens when he was with the Bosox, the Yanks, and when he left for Houston (although I lost a litte when he stole Petitte).
I have no respect for him now because his actions do not respect the game.
Clemens has paid his dues. He is at the age where he doesn't have to work full time. He's not disrespecting the game one bit by only playing part of the season. Look at golf, several golfers pick and choose which tournaments to enter. Does that mean they are spitting in the face of the game. It happens a lot in NASCAR as well. A driver will scale back the number of races he runs as he gets late in his career.
Priorities in life change. If I could afford to work less and spend more time with my family, I absolutely would. It doesn't mean that I'm crapping on the construction industry.
Clemens is doing what is best for him and his family and there's nothing wrong with that. If he can go out, earn the money that other teams think he is worth, and get it on his terms, you can't fault him for that.
And I must have missed the part where he broke into Yankee Stadium, kidnapped Andy Pettite, and took him to Houston.
Strohs won't be in either way.
<< <i>At his age he's earned the right (assuming he didn't mess with roids or drugs) to do whatever he wants to do. >>
I agree. A lot of people -- in many different occupations -- who are financially secure but don't want to completely give up their "trade" go into semi-retirement and work part-time. And if they're valuable enough to their employers, they can (to a degree) negotiate their own terms, working hours, et cetera. This is hardly unique to baseball or even to athletes in general.
<< <i>I disagree Jamericon
Clemens has paid his dues. He is at the age where he doesn't have to work full time. He's not disrespecting the game one bit by only playing part of the season. Look at golf, several golfers pick and choose which tournaments to enter. Does that mean they are spitting in the face of the game. It happens a lot in NASCAR as well. A driver will scale back the number of races he runs as he gets late in his career.
Priorities in life change. If I could afford to work less and spend more time with my family, I absolutely would. It doesn't mean that I'm crapping on the construction industry.
Clemens is doing what is best for him and his family and there's nothing wrong with that. If he can go out, earn the money that other teams think he is worth, and get it on his terms, you can't fault him for that.
And I must have missed the part where he broke into Yankee Stadium, kidnapped Andy Pettite, and took him to Houston. >>
Well said
And yes, Pettitte went to Clemens and talked him out of retirement...
As my 6 year-old Farm League coach told me and I know we have all heard it "There is no I in team"
<< <i>At what point are his dues deemed paid? He is only helping Roger Clemens' bottom line by allowing this charade to continue each year. A team needs chemistry/continuity and has actions hardly promote the team aspect of the game.
As my 6 year-old Farm League coach told me and I know we have all heard it "There is no I in team" >>
If a team doesn't think that Clemens could help them, they don't have to offer him a contract. It's not like he's going out there and looking like a fool and just collecting a check. He's still effective and he's still in demand.
<< <i>The best story would be for him to ap off his career where it started, in Boston. And, this might be a great season for him to be a part of things at Fenway again... >>
Yes, he's got some unfinished business that Calvin Schiraldi bungled . . . . .
In fact, I think Clemens may have paved the way for forty-something pitchers going forward. Baseball has evolved drastically in how it approaches pitching in the last 40 years. Olders guys who are still strong, but don't have the endurance for a full season, could extend their careers by a few years. I could see relatively healthy workhorses like Schilling, Mussina, Glavine, etc.. follow suit. Even die-hard David Wells would continue indefinitely if he only had to pitch half a season (not that he'd would do anything but drink beer during all that time off anyway).
If he wants to end his career in glory....he will sign with the Red Sox
If he wants to end his career in glory, a world series champ with a legendary ending... he will sign with the Yankees
Of course, I am a Yankees fan
<< <i>If he wants to end his career quietly...he will sign with the Astros >>
Carlos Lee says: Thou shalt not make fun of the Astros or thou will get their arses whipped.
Good player or not that is not what a teammate does.
Lemme just say....I think Clemens is one the the greatest pictures ever, but I do not like this game he has played the last few years
<< <i>It does upset chemistry for the simple fact he gets special treatment...i.e. pitches at home, does not travel with the team, locker spread like Bonds.
Good player or not that is not what a teammate does.
Lemme just say....I think Clemens is one the the greatest pictures ever, but I do not like this game he has played the last few years >>
Just for clarification: Clemens traveled with the team when he was NOT sceduled to pitch. It was an option that wasn't always used.
I don't mean to sound like a Clemens apologist but I think people are a little hard on him (not to single you out, volver
Think what he's done over his career and what he can still do at his age. Also, Clemens is as solid of a person you can ever meet. He does a ton of behind the scenes charity work, a real family guy, and maintained a positive image in the public.
Being in the majors for 22+ years, that's a lot of time away from your family.
His body will not allow him to play an entire season, that's what happens when you are 44 years old. The only reason he keeps coming back is because he's the most competitive person you will ever know. The money doesn't hurt but Clemens has MILLIONS and MILLIONS in the bank... His grandkids won't be able to spend all of it
Pitch 3 months with a sub 3.00 ERA with his electricity in the air? Who wouldn't want that?
He can take all the time he wants... In my honest and humble opinion, he of all people deserve it.
too bad Carlos Lee cant pitch as good as he can hit
Stro's need another quality starter this year.
is Joe Perry (from Aerosmith) posing with Clemens
or is
Clemens posing with Joe Perry (from Aerosmith)??
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Go Phillies
Steve
<< <i>This whole merry-go-round of where will he play and when it getting old. It's baseballs version of Brett Favre and his retirment.
Roger, do us all a favor and either pitch or just retire >>
A game in June hardly has the same implications...at this point he just goes through the motions.
<< <i>Roger Clemens has piched under more intense pressure in the past 3 years than any other pitcher in history. I used to not like him on the Yankees and I'm a Yankees fan. He received a lot of run support. He had an inflated ERA. Now, when he takes the mound the first pitch he throws can lose him the game. That is intense pressure to go into the 7th inning night after night with the score 0-0 or down a run 1-0. I have never known a team to perform so so horribly (offensively) in the biggest of games. I remember his last start-they still had a chance in the division. I believe the offense got 1 run in 7 innings for Clemens. His ERA is legendary for the modern era over the past 3 years. He should have been the CY YOUNG 3 straight years if the team could have scored 3 runs when he pitches. The offense sucks. He should go to another team.
Edited because it's not worth it
<< <i>Edited because it's not worth it