Oldest card to have an authentic autograph?

frankhardy

I have been getting into autographs here recently. I was just wondering what the oldest known autographed card. Are there are Goudey's that are autographed? I would say so, but I have never seen one. What about tobacco cards? Has anybody ever seen an autographed T206? That would be pretty neat.

RedHeart54

I know I've seen a Goudey auto but I'm guessing it was signed in "modern" times by whoever the player was. (May have been Carl Hubbell.) It seems that I just saw a signed T-206 but I can't remember where it was.

frankhardy

I would say that, even though impressive, an older card signed in modern times would not be nearly as impressive as an older card with a vintage signature. Obviously, the further back you go, the more impressive it is. I know I just stated the obvious, but, oh well.

I would love to see a scan of something like that.

baseballfanatic

I remember Barry Halper having a 1933 Goudey signed Lajoie. May not be the oldest but has to be one of the coolest autographed cards out there...

jamesgotpoorman

On ebay from time to time there is many 33 goudeys up for sale. Most I would believe, were signed in the 60's-80's. Most of those players, unfortunately will not be signing any more autographs. I will be checking registry to see graded auto in 206 set. I know that there is many in 33 goudey!

HockeyAutoCollector

I know Mastro had 1933-34 Ice Kings that were autographed in one of their previous auctions. If I remember correctly, they had both Howie Morenz and Babe Siebert as part of the collection. Since Morenz died in 1937 and Siebert in 1939 I would suspect that most of the cards were signed during the mid 1930s.

jamesgotpoorman

I would be neat to see scans of those cards.

milbroco

I have a T206 autographed by Rube Marquard. I am not sure if it is authentic or not but I think it might be as I have seen some authentic ones. It is signed in I beleive black sharpie so if it was real, it was signed later in life. I will try to find it and scan it for everyone.
Thanks,
Bob

tennesseebanker

I thought I remembered seeing a Cracker Jack with an auto.

jimq112

Signed in 1980s -

milbroco

Here is the Marquard I was talking about.
Bob

MooseDog

The Marquard is good without question.

I have seen several signed T cards but none for several years.

Signed Goudeys and such from that era (1930s) are "relatively" common...

I'm speaking of vintage signatures here, not old cards signed in the last 20-30 years.

RedHeart54

I still think cards signed by well-known players who unfortunately died the same year as the signed card are impressive. The 1979 Topps Thurman Munson in Mastro's last auction sold for over $3200. '78 Bostocks are also pretty scarce and someone here posted a signed 1972 Topps IA Clemente.

SDSportsFan

I've seen pictures of an N300 (issued in 1895) signed by Hugh Duffy.


Steve

originalisbest

Has to be as scarce as all-get out the further back you go. To find someone collecting them purposefully and then seeking out the players to sign them? Most likely would be in some sort of team archive, if someone connected to/with access to the team, decided to pursue such a collection.

frankhardy

<< <i>I still think cards signed by well-known players who unfortunately died the same year as the signed card are impressive. The 1979 Topps Thurman Munson in Mastro's last auction sold for over $3200. '78 Bostocks are also pretty scarce and someone here posted a signed 1972 Topps IA Clemente. >>



I agree 100%. That would be really neat (though unfortunate for the signer) to have.

frankhardy

<< <i>I've seen pictures of an N300 (issued in 1895) signed by Hugh Duffy.


Steve >>



Great googly-moogly! I would pay a fee just to see that! (Not really, but you get my point)

schr1st

I've seen several Marquard T206 autographs, and some other random T series cards. Permier Auctions had an Autographed Goudey Sports Kings Ty Cobb (PSA/DNA certified) last year that I would have loved to have owned. The oldest signed card in my collection is a 1922 W575-2 George Kelly (Hand Cut - PSA 4), with a vintage signature (not sure how old), followed by a 1926 SPALDING CHAMPION Joe Sewell PSA 8 (there are several of them, including at least one PSA 9 that was sold in Mastro's last auction).

frankhardy

<< <i>Here is the Marquard I was talking about.
Bob

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Why haven't you gotten this authenticated?

daveryan2001

There are lots of signed Goudey's out there.

There are some T206's, especially Marquard, since he was still alive into the 1980's.

scooter729

<< <i>I've seen pictures of an N300 (issued in 1895) signed by Hugh Duffy.


Steve >>



This is true - I remember seeing this card as well. I think it had been signed when he was a scout with the Red Sox circa 1940s, but damn impressive...

milbroco

Why haven't you gotten this authenticated?

Time. I am very slow when it comes to sending in anything for grading or authenticating. I try to spend my time with my two kids and am usually too tired to get things together to send in after they go to bed. Besides, I basically forgot I had it until I saw this thread. Its been sitting in my safe for quite a few years. I probably will send it in before the summer though.

brumbach

The N300 Duffy, sold for $2250 (before juice and shipping) in REA 2005. I didn't win but I know who did.


My earliest, a recent pick-up:


Someone over on the N54 boards has a signed Cracker Jack, I forget who the player is though, not a HOFer I know that much. There are also a handfull of signed T-206 Cobbs out there including at least one green portrait.

jamesgotpoorman

nice

frankhardy

<< <i>The N300 Duffy, sold for $2250 (before juice and shipping) in REA 2005. I didn't win but I know who did.


My earliest, a recent pick-up:


Someone over on the N54 boards has a signed Cracker Jack, I forget who the player is though, not a HOFer I know that much. There are also a handfull of signed T-206 Cobbs out there including at least one green portrait. >>




Wow! I think that Duffy takes the cake. I don't know how you can get any older than that. That is impressive.


As far as Fred Lindstrom goes, I just met his nephew a month ago and bought his entire card collection. That's a neat auto. I have an auto on a 3 x 5 card, but it is signed "Freddie" and not "Freddy" like yours. I guess he signed it both ways.

mikeschmidt

There are some earlier 19th century items/trade cards that are signed on the back by the player. Probably less of an autograph -- as they were not widely collected in the 19th century. Also, some of those "autographed" items came out of the personal collections of some former ballplayers -- so it may have been more of a writing of the name for identification purposes than for a formal autograph, per se.