Multiple PCGS Submissions in Single Shipment

Twincam

Does anyone know how multiple submissions from a single shipment are managed by PCGS?

Let's say you send some raw coins, and some NGC crossover candidates, to PCGS in the same package. They would have to be on different submission forms...but I'm wondering if you send more than one submission form in the same package, if all the submissions go to the same graders...or if one submission form with it's coins go to one set of graders, and the other form and coins go to a different set of graders?

Any insight?

BAJJERFAN

It would depend on the service level of each submission. Crossovers or regular submissions would obviously be done ahead of economy. So the answer would be that each type of submission goes to its proper place in the respective lineups.

Twincam

So if the service levels are the same...the two submissions would make their way thru check-in and to the graders one right next to the other. And the same set of graders would grade both submissions...sequentially...without any other submissions from someone else in between them?

BAJJERFAN

Probably, but I wouldn't guarantee it. Not sure why you would send two of the same service level submissions together unless one was yours and the other wasn't.

garsmith

Are you looking to get sequentialy numbered slabs, for a registry set maybe. I would think that if that is what you want to do you could contact PCGS and request this from them.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Are you looking to get sequentialy numbered slabs, for a registry set maybe. >>



The best way to do that is send one single submission. I'm sure its possible to have more than 20 coins to a submission, even tho there are only 20 spaces on a submission form. Since they probably have more than one person entering submissions into their system/database I'd say its unlikely that two like submissions will end up getting consecutive cert numbers, but they will likely be seen by the same grader/s.

Twincam

What I'm really trying to find out is this...
I have some raw coins to be graded. Additionally, I have some previously graded PCGS coins I think are upgrade candidates...these upgrade coins are from the same series as the raw coins. I send in two submission forms...one for Grading the raw coins and one for Regrade of the previously holdered PCGS coins. Both submission forms are economy service level...and both forms and their respective coins are shipped to PCGS in the same package. Will the same set of graders work both of these submission forms...one after another...since they came in the same package? IE same graders...perhaps some consistency in the grading standards applied to the two submissions. OR...will the two submissions be routed to two different sets of graders, each of whom will never see the other submission.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Will the same set of graders work both of these submission forms...one after another...since they came in the same package? IE same graders...perhaps some consistency in the grading standards applied to the two submissions. OR...will the two submissions be routed to two different sets of graders, each of whom will never see the other submission. >>



What he said.

I believe that the two submissions will be routed differently. It is possible that both will be seen by the same graders, but most likely not at the same time.

robertpr

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<< <i>Will the same set of graders work both of these submission forms...one after another...since they came in the same package? IE same graders...perhaps some consistency in the grading standards applied to the two submissions. OR...will the two submissions be routed to two different sets of graders, each of whom will never see the other submission. >>



What he said.

I believe that the two submissions will be routed differently. It is possible that both will be seen by the same graders, but most likely not at the same time. >>



Right. The regrades have to be routed through the crackout department before going through the grading room, while the raw coins will go right in.

ajia

....and some NGC crossover candidates,.....

Are you looking to get sequentialy numbered slabs, for a registry set maybe.?

You haven't answered garsmith's question, but if that is the case what if the NGC coins don't cross? That would interupt the sequence.
Why not crack them out yourself & send them all in raw, thereby insuring the sequence is kept? If that is what you're after.

BAJJERFAN

He isn't interested in sequential serial numbers. He is interested in grading consistency for the two submissions; that is if both were graded at the same time by the same grader(s) then the grading should be more consistent. The only way to ensure that all coins will be seen a grader(s) at the same time is to send them as a single submission. Even then there is no guarantee that you will get the results you are looking for.

Twincam

<< <i>He isn't interested in sequential serial numbers. He is interested in grading consistency for the two submissions; that is if both were graded at the same time by the same grader(s) then the grading should be more consistent. >>



You are correct. And, I now realize...based on robertpr's observation regarding PCGS's crackout department ...that the only way to accomplish this is to crack out any PCGS upgrade or NGC crossover candidates myself...thereby eliminating the requirement for multiple submissions.

Gandyjai

Frankly, I wouldn't send them in the same box, or even at the same time....Only because I wouldn't want (even possibly)
the same grader to be looking at a bunch of "undergraded" coins and comparing them to the raw ones I just sent in.
Does that make any sense, or am I just....

Outside of saving $15-$20 or so on sending the boxes separately,....I really can't see a benefit for sending them together.

And,...unless they were in the same submission category....I wouldn't think that PCGS would even WANT them
to arrive in the same box. Crossovers and raw seem (to me) to be completely different categories. I would send them in
different boxes at least a couple of weeks apart.
(JMHO)

Brian

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BAJJERFAN

The won't get graded together so why not just save on postage and submit them together.

Gandyjai

If PCGS says it's OK to send 2 totally different submissions in the same box, then OK.
Frankly, I really don't know what their policy is on such a thing.
I just know that I wouldn't send "undergraded " slabbed ones along with raw ones...at the same time...but, that's just me.

Heck....I don't even DARE to send in Silver raw Ikes in the SAME batch as Clad Ikes!

I wish you the best on your grades and/or upgrades!

Happy Hunting!
Brian

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edited for spelling...

BAJJERFAN

As long as you don't expect PCGS to decide which coins are supposed to go with which submission form I don't think they really care if you send 1, 2, or 10 different submissions in the same shipment.

clackamas

I have sent 10 or more different submission in the same package. In fact I usually wait until I have multiples before sending them. If you are paying for a higher service level writ that on the package, e.g., Regular.

LincolnScents

I was told (by PCGS) that multiple submission forms in a single package is fine. All the boxes are opened in one department. The submissions are checked for accuracy and completeness and put in que, according to grading levels, for the next grader . So, save shipping and send all together.