what does NO mean as a grade?

fandango

2 12563819 1987 DRAKE'S 8 DON MATTINGLY HAND CUT N0
2 12563820 1987 DRAKE'S 8 DON MATTINGLY HAND CUT N0
2 12563821 1987 DRAKE'S 8 DON MATTINGLY HAND CUT N0


not sure, i cut them myself and thought they were 9's....very dissapointed

sfmays24

fandango,

I'm not familiar with this issue, but generally "hand cut" cards receive a NO when they do not show 100% of the border/dotted line (cutting guides). If this issue did not have such lines or if you cut on/inside them... the result would be NO-sorry.

Mike
sfmays24

envoy98

Here's what the Grading Standards say. Since the other Nx designations apply starting with N1-N9, I'll assume N0 is in reference to the hand cutting that comes immediately preceding the N1-9 designations.

The Grading of Hand Cut Cards
PSA will grade virtually any card that has been hand-cut off of a panel, box, etc. (Post Cereal, Hostess, Bazooka, Strip cards, etc.) keeping the following information in mind. This service does not include traditional sheet-cut cards. PSA will not grade cards cut from sheets that can be obtained in a normal fashion. For example, PSA will not grade a 1979 O-Pee-Chee Wayne Gretzky card cut from a sheet because that card was issued in non-sheet form. On the other hand,

PSA will grade a 1959 Bazooka or 1961 Post Cereal Mickey Mantle because those cards could only be obtained in one fashion - removed by hand from a box or panel.

In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye-appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum sized altogether.

Keep in mind that, for cards that do not possess visible/defined borders, the cards must still fall within a certain size requirement for that particular issue in order to qualify for an actual grade. In other words, the borders must be virtually full in order for a grade to be rendered. Otherwise, as stated above, a label of "Authentic" will be assigned or, in some cases, the cards may fall short of the size requirement altogether. This is not an exact science, however, PSA will do its best to provide consistent guidelines for these types of cards.

In addition, PSA will allow cards that have had a coupon or tab removed from the original card to be submitted under this service. For example, if a 1952 Red Man Tobacco card is cut at or outside of the established tab line, the card would be eligible to receive a numerical grade. On the other hand, if the 1952 Red Man Tobacco card is cut inside of the line (the line where the tab meets the interior of the card), then the PSA graders will be precluded from entering a numerical grade. Cards that are cut within the limits established for a particular issue will be encapsulated and designated as “authentic” by PSA. All of the cards eligible for this service will be designated as “Hand-Cut” on the PSA label to distinguish them from the intact, “with tab” or “with coupon” examples.

PSA suggests that, in order to achieve the highest grades, the cuts of the cards should be relatively close to the visible borders without exceeding the limit. Cards that exhibit a clean, accurate and properly shaped cut have the best chance at achieving the highest grades. Eye-appeal is very important. When it comes to excess paper or cardboard around the edges of the visible borders, the graders will place significant importance on overall eye-appeal. Keep in mind that all cards of this type will be designated as "Hand-Cut" on the PSA label for accuracy. In addition, if the customer chooses, PSA will grade and encapsulate entire panels if those panels will fit in any of our current PSA holders. With the exception of the aforementioned items, normal grading criteria will apply.



The Grading Approach to Pins/Coins
The grading of pins or coins often comes down to the strength or weakness of the eye-appeal since the material in question is far less susceptible to wear than cardboard or paper. The areas/defects that PSA graders focus on include but are not limited to: scratches, dents, severity of rust (if present), centering of the picture (obverse and reverse), compression of the pin/coin, the overall condition of the paper (if present) on the reverse and overall print quality. Since collectible coins/pins often differ in their make-up, sometimes greatly, it is very difficult to apply one uniform grading standard to all collectibles that fall into this category. The factors above represent the basic, key elements in the PSA grading approach.

ArmourGuy

87 drakes do have a border all the way around.

srs1a

That looks to me like an N-zero....what it is, I cannot say, but N1-N9 are all reasons why cards dont end up in slabs.
I suspect the border requirements for hand cut cards are the reason, as stated above.

FYI, here are the other nasty N's


N-1 Evidence of Trimming - When a card’s edge has been altered, a card doctor may use scissors, scalpel, cutter, or any other cutting instrument. A trimmed card may show one of the following: Hook up or down, have one razor sharp edge, a difference in toning along the edge, a wavy look.
N-2 Evidence of Restoration - When a card’s paper stock is built up - for example, when ripped corners are built up to look like new corners.
N-3 Evidence of Recoloration - Where a card’s color has been artificially improved.
N-4 Questionable Authenticity - This is the term used when a card is counterfeit.
N-5 Altered Stock - This term is used when the paper stock is altered in one or more of the following ways: Stretching and trimming, recoloring and restoring, trimming and recoloring, restoring an trimming, crease or wrinkle is pressed out, or gloss is enhanced.
N-6 Minimum Size Requirement - When a card is significantly undersized according to factory specifications. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service.
N-7 Evidence of Cleaning - When a whitener is used to whiten borders or a solution is used to remove wax, candy, gum or tobacco stains.
N-8 Miscut - This term is used when the factory cut is an abnormal cut. The grading fees are returned. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service.
N-9 Don't Grade - When we do not grade an issue. The cards may be oversized or an obscure issue. The grading fees are refunded. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service.

RedRomad275

I was under the impression that if hand cut cards did not meet the requirements ( border showing) then they were graded "authentic" which equates to a 3 if put into the set registry

Red

fandango

thats what i thought, it will be interesting ot see if they are in authentic holders or unslabbed..either way a huge dissapointment..

now i know why TC Collection STILL does not have a 1987 drakes in his 99% done set!

mikeschmidt

They will be slabbed as authentic -- I've had it happen on many Mike Schmidt cards before [even once or twice when I cut outside the borders -- thank you PSA]

RedRomad275

I just saw some 78 Pepsi cards on EBay slabbed Authentic and they were cut outside the line. I emailed the seller and asked but he seemed uninterested in resubmitting.

Red