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LARRY BIRD BASIC SET

bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭
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HELLO ALL,

I just was updating my Larry bird basic set and noticed 4 new cards have been added. How does that happen, who is the gate keeper that can add/delete a card from a basic/master set. Just curious about the process


thanks

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  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    I know for a Master set, anyone can submit a card to be entered. The only criteria are that it has to be a card PSA has already graded (with accompanying serial number), and it has to be a card from the playing years of the player pictured.

    The only exception to this is a card from the first year after the player's career which shows their complete career statistics.
    For Bird, this would merit the inclusion of a few of his 1992-93 cards, but not all.
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭
    they have added 5 since this morning!!!! i was looking at mine at about 11:00 am and now i have dropped from 100% to about 70% and the master set was also updated. they have added the 92 topps and the 92 fleer recently, about a couple of month ago, but i'm not sure why they added these??? i've been collecting this set basically since it started and it seems i keep getting farther away from finishing it, atleast that's the way it feels. i was 100% on the basic several times and over 70% in the master set, now who knows??
    fred
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭
    bifff
    which set is yours? do you have a master set?
    baseballfan

    M&M's bird sets (basic and master)
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • SheamasterSheamaster Posts: 542 ✭✭✭
    Sorry guys, I added the '92 Topps a while back.
  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭


    << <i>i've been collecting this set basically since it started and it seems i keep getting farther away from finishing it, atleast that's the way it feels. i was 100% on the basic several times and over 70% in the master set, now who knows?? >>




    That is kind of the way I feel about it also. I was 2 or 3 cards short I think to being at 100%.

    Nothing like a moving target......... imageimage




    << <i>which set is yours? do you have a master set? >>



    BBF,

    I am DAB's


  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    Ugh...Most of the added Bird cards make sense, but I don't get the 92 Stadium Club Members Choice card? To me, "Basic Set" means the base card of each set.

    I got started on the Bird Basic because it was managable....here's to hoping it doesn't grow much bigger.
  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭


    << <i>but I don't get the 92 Stadium Club Members Choice card? >>




    Me either, I don't even think I have ever seen one. image
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭
    i've seen them, not many, but i'm wondering why it was added as well. i don't know 92 the stadium club set, is this part of the regular set? and does it really add anything to the basic card set? maybe the master set but there is already a regular 92 stadium club in the basic set, the other "rookie" cards from topps are not part of the basic set.

    on the upside they really can't add many more cards if any at all, he was well retired in 1992 so any other cards would be from non playing years and wouldn't add anything to the sets. Can they????
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    The Member's Choice card is a subset within the normal Stadium Club set. It is not to be confused with the parallel Members Only set that was available in expensive factory set only. However, neither should be part of the Basic Set as I understand it.
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • HoopsGuruHoopsGuru Posts: 10
    It seems as if there have been a number of unnecessary additions to a few of the basic player sets. The Larry Bird set isn't too bad....YET. I have a sneaking suspicion it could all change soon after watching some of the key hoops basic player sets closely over the past few months and years honestly.

    They started with the Magic Johnson set which is one of the worst basic player sets out there right now in my opinion. There are some absolutely ridiculous cards that have been added to that set. I've come to the realization that PSA is out to make their money and is willing to add these highly questionable cards in order to do so. It's a sad state of affairs. There should be a discussion as to what truly indeed is worthy of basic player inclusions as some of these people request absurd additions and PSA grants them as part of basic sets.

    A friend and one of the top collectors in all of baseball and basketball registry sets have discussed it numerous times. Our understanding of a basic player registry set is that it should include base cards from the player's play years from each of the major card producing manufacturers. Topps, Fleer, Upper Deck, SP Authentic, Finest, Score, Topps Chrome, Bowman, and etc. are some of the familiar companies that produce large amounts of cards for issue. It seems now that anybody with a regional issued set is available for inclusion. For example let's say Charlie's Fish Sticks has some cards issued on their box during a player's career...that's worthy of basic set inclusion?

    Stickers have also been showing up in basic player sets. Subset issues and stickers do not belong in basic player sets!!! Master sets I can agree with but it's getting out of hand. Even cards from Spanish and European issued sets are being added to basic sets...the line should be drawn at some point as PSA has taken some of the joy of sportscard collecting out of the hobby by allowing some of these cards in basic sets. I'm all for it in a master set but these current guidelines are horrible for basic set inclusions.

    This all in turn has soured me on most of the player registry sets. Those few people who've added the cards in question just might find someone else who's willing to up the ante and add some even more ridiculous cards to basic sets in order to keep the 100% plateau almost unattainable. Yes it's wrong but it has been going on for a while now and don't be surprised to see more of it in a basic player set that you may be collecting currently.
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    HoopsGuru,

    you mean to tell me that you don't feel that Magic's : 1991 U.D. McDONALDS MAGIC JOHNSON PARIS card should be apart of the basic set ? image

    Dave
  • HoopsGuruHoopsGuru Posts: 10
    Yeah I should try to include the drawing my kid made of Kobe next...it'll be there...just you wait and see. LOL.
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    Guru - I agree with you 100%. The joy of collecting is ever so slowly being drained away, as it becomes more and more of a business every day. Has PSA ever rescinded an Basic Set inclusion based on negative feedback from it's membership? My guess is probably not. Maybe I'll go Andy Dufrane on them and send them 1 email a week until the Bird M.O. (and Magic UD McD Paris, and all other ridiculous Basic cards) are removed.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭
    jdip
    i agree where do i send the emails???? this is getting crazy. the basic sets should be the easiest to put together, they should not be a growing set, the master yes as other cards are found and graded i can see adding them but the basic is the base cards from major sets during the players "playing" days. how hard is that???? where do they go next??? what else could be added?

    a frustrated bid collector
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭


    << <i>should not be a growing set, the master yes as other cards are found and graded i can see adding them but the basic is the base cards from major sets during the players "playing" days. how hard is that???? >>




    I agree, I thought that is why there is a MASTER SET & a BASIC SET. the basic set is just that, Basic>

    I just don't like moving targets, especially from a player that has been retired since 1992.

    Anyway, just my 2 cents..................

  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    "they have added the 92 topps and the 92 fleer recently, about a couple of month ago, but i'm not sure why they added these???"

    I agree that basic sets are out of hand. However, surely you see 1992 Topps and 1992 Fleer as basic cards. I dont think many people have a problem with last year cards added. I do think 95% have a problem with disc and other cards we would call "oddball" cards to be added to basic sets.

    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭
    mark
    i think they are basic set cards but he didn't play in 92 he retired in august before the season started, that's why they were not included in the basic set in the first place but i do agree the odd ball stuff is for the master set only not basic. i thought the basic sets were for the "playing years" and the master sets for everything else

    just my thoughts
    fred
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

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