Stolen scan from BBCEXCHANGE?? EBAY

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  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    and his 1957 Baseball pack. What is he doing????
    http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-TOPPS-BASEBALL-WAX-PACK-GAI-8-NEAR-MINT-V-RARE_W0QQitemZ120074714283QQihZ002QQcategoryZ50133QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120074714283

    Same pic from BBCexchanges site, same pack
  • cravetopps
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    Handyman.....great catch!! You are absolutely correct!! You should ask him if the scan is a raw pack. Act innocent and excited.

    he also uses copyrighted materials in his ebay ad directly from CU.
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  • beef316
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    I woulod say w/ 99% certainty that this guy just cropped the pic from BBCE.
  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wonder why he says it's not graded. Do you think hes using his pic to switch the product or just doesnt want to give away the serial number. Or if hes just selling a fake item and taking the money.
    I hate this type of ebayer seller.
  • cohocorp
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    link to the 52 topps pack


    edited to add comment- one reason i am so reluctant to deal with out of country sellers is that they are much harder to hunt down. i realize there are good sellers in other countries but there is still that complication.
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  • handyman
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    Lets just say he did buy it from BBCEXCHANGE. Then why the story about finding it in his grandfauthers basement?? And now its not graded? Then he busted it out why? Looks shady.
  • cohocorp
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    bbce exchange still has the 2 packs he has advertised. we discussed them at the reading show when i went on friday.
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  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This guys story just doesnt add up then. Selling a fake item with a fake story.
  • cohocorp
    cohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
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    link to the '57 pack
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  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I emailed him saying I was really interested in the 1952 pack at your price. But first could I see a pic of the back of the pack.

    As that is the most important part of the pack. I wonder if I get anything. There should be no reason why he couldnt send me a pic if he has the pack.
  • Alfonz24
    Alfonz24 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He gives you a link to not getting ripped off on Ebay.
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  • rlankhaar
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    Another interesting thing-the location listed for the 2 packs are at least 3 hours apart. I clicked on a few of his other listings, and while most were in Vancouver, there was one in Sacramento. Just another red flag in this auction.
    Always looking for 1996 Select Certified Football.
  • cohocorp
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    looks like he is just using steve's inventory. thats a pretty common practice. basically if someone hits his bin, he goes and buys it from steve and ships to his customer.

    edited for spelling
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  • cohocorp
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    a huge red flag would be if he was at the same price or lower than steve's price and using his pics. but since he is higher, it makes sense. and the canadian guy is selling it on a different venue than steve is, which also makes sense. its a very very common practice. many people do not have the financial means to stock a ton of items or the high end stuff, so they do this to expand their inventory.
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  • Volver
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    What like a ghost inventory....does that work?
  • cohocorp
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    in general it can work. in this case, it will not. anyone who is a potential customer of those 2 packs should know to check steve's inventory and will see it cheaper there. but many many times the dealers i sold to would use my inventory the same way. they knew my prices so they would add their mark-up. i didnt care as i always preferred to deal with fewer people. to me it was less paperwork, therefore less hassles. so if they wanted to use my inventory, fine with me.

    edited to add- i dont know whats up with the canadian guy using different locations though. that is a red flag to me. but on the surface, if someone paid him the $6000 or so for the 52 pack, why wouldnt he pay steve the $5500 for his. makes $500 legit. assuming steve didnt sell his in the meantime. image
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  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    but this pack isnt graded so how is he selling steves inventory???
  • cohocorp
    cohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
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    this strategy is more common with dealers who have large mailing lists. they normally dont advertise it on a large venue such as ebay. whereas its easy to search around for better prices.

    this allows dealers who have low capital (for example $50,000) to have a larger perceived inventory. in realilty though, a $50,000 inventory is small when dealing in those items.
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  • cohocorp
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    << <i>but this pack isnt graded so how is he selling steves inventory??? >>



    first of all, this is just my view.

    ok. if the canadian guy sells his (raw) pack, he can simply buys steve's, crack it out of the slab, and ship it to his customer. btw, the dealer who actually owns the item (in this case steve) normally isnt aware of the other seller. in my case, when other dealers were using my inventory, i simply didnt care since i preferred to deal with fewer people anyway.

    none of this should matter in this particular case as anyone who may buy these 2 items discussed would know to go to steve directly.
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  • cravetopps
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    interesting, cohocorp. so, if he is doing what you think he is, selling SH's inventory, why make the claim it is raw? makes me wonder if he is going to buy the graded pack, crack it, open the pack to see what's there, and if he hits the jackpot, refund the bidder or possibly replace the 52T mantle with a very nice PSA 8 common. Or, he could replace all the cards with beautiful PSA 8 commons and who would complain? Pretty nice scheme.
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  • jayhawke
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    I wonder what else was found in the basement.image
  • cohocorp
    cohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
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    i have no idea the intentions of the canadian guy. i am just saying it is very common practice to use others inventory.
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  • CDsNuts
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    Has anybody contacted Steve to let him know?

    Lee
  • cohocorp
    cohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
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    he did the reading show so i dont think he got back and settled in yet.
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  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He just wrote me this....

    "Hi, We just sent this last pack in for grading to PSA. It is a PSA 6. I do not have the pack here with me to take a picture as it is stored at my grandfathers. We have 2 of them left both PSA 6. Serries unknown. Cheers"
    Im going to say you mean its a bbcexchange!! Jerk!
  • handyman
    handyman Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wrote this..

    Enough lies. It wont get you anywhere. Or is it here????
    http://www.bbcexchange.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=4132
    Along with YOUR?? 1957 wax pack.
    Why lie???
    BBCEXCHANGE IS BEING CONTACTED ALONG WITH EBAY.
    This is not your item
  • cravetopps
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    looks like cohocorp hit the nail on the head. can't wait for the guys reply to you, handyman. Nice one! image
    Mark B.

    Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards

    My PSA Registry Sets

    34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
  • cohocorp
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    << <i>looks like cohocorp hit the nail on the head. can't wait for the guys reply to you, handyman. Nice one! image >>



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  • handyman
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    He told me he was going to report me to ebay for harrasment and called me a morron. Hmm.
  • bobsbbcards
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    I'm a little surprised that PSA allows him to include the SMR listing for 1952 Topps in his auction. I'm sure he asked before he did it. Hmmmm..... image
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  • grote15
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    I can't stand self-righteous thieves! Hopefully the auctions will be canceled and he'll get booted off ebay. His FB is awful anyway.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • handyman
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    I dont know how to report him to ebay. Will someone do it??
  • WinPitcher
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    LOL nothing amazes me anymore.

    Couple years back another slime ball tried the same exact thing using the T206 museums cards

    If the museum wanted 100.00 for a card the slime ball would list it for 125.99 or more. Like Pat said it is pretty prevalent in the hobby.

    If you have the persons permission i see no problem. A few dealers do it amongst themselves. (using the same price at times or one lists it higher. It is usually done on web sites though. Doing it w/o the other parties knowledge is slimey.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • MarkJ
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    << <i>I dont know how to report him to ebay. Will someone do it?? >>



    It has been reported image

    All photos reported.

  • grote15
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    The photo of the pack in the box is stolen, too. What a jerk. Grandfather's basement my foot!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • nightcrawler729
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    The 52 Pack is no longer for sale
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  • pandrews
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    Canadians..
    ·p_A·
  • grote15
    grote15 Posts: 30,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Canadians..

    Eh?? image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • handyman
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    Yea and now he added 5 new ones. This guy is a jerk.

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