<< <i>I received a pm from Gary saying that he would not refund the late 70's early 80's rip. I told him I would be looking at other avenues to recoup my monies. >>
Red, did you see this thread? I posted Gary's reply to my PM regarding the late 70s-early 80s rip, too. Nothing coming our way from that, even though 80sJ said it was on the up-and-up. (I posted a link to the original thread in the one I just linked to.)
Pending refunds usually take up to 4 BDA to clear, so you should have your funds by Thursday.
I'm also pleased to hear that at least Gary is coming through with these refund requests. As others have said, I do give him credit for that, as most scammers would have been in the wind without a trace by now.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Pretty lame attempt at restitution actually. He's got about $13,000 to go by my count.
Bob C.
I agree with you in principle. My point was only that I'm surprised he's even made an effort to provide restitution to the members he has thus far.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
My pending refund for the football rip cleared and is now safely in my bank account. I'll be returning the cards tomorrow without wrappers (I threw them away).
<< <i>I agree Grote and I too am happily surprised. I just wish he would pick up the pace.
After all this is a guy with the means to drop 12K at the national right.
Maybe a little more heat is what he needs???
Bob C. >>
I don't buy that he dropped $12k for one minute. He was trying to build some credibility and make it look like he would have no need to try and steal a couple hundred dollars. I think many of his posts and the frequency of his posts were simply trying to establish a sens of trust from the people he was targeting to send him money.
I have been gone a while. I don't know what is up.
I can't believe this group rip finally backfired. I am sorry for everyone involved.
Zef204 may have a point. Gary did enough of these group rips to build credibility only to be able to stick it in the end. Its an old technique. I hope you guys get a refund one way or another. It just goes to show that buying vintage wax is super risky unless BBCE, but even that is not 100% (at least you have seller willing to make things right on the spot if things don't turn out well, so I give credit for that).
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Gary did anwser my 2nd pm in regards to a refund for the late 70's-early 80's rip and asked me why I wanted a refund and when I replied he pm'd back that that rip was good. No refund as of yet.
Red
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My football pack rip refund came through, and I just sent all of the the cards back to Gary. The best card I got in the packs was probably a 1979 Walter Payton that should grade an 8 with an outside chance at a 9. I do believe my 1976 pack was resealed. I finally opened it last week, and it had several signs of resealing, IMO, so I was happy for the refund. Most other packs of mine looked perfectly legit (77, 79, 86, 89, etc., though possibly not the 1984 pack). I do hope everyone who got a refund sends their cards back, given all we complained about honesty and ethics here over the last few weeks. I had thrown away my 1985 cards due to serious warping, so I just sent him some other 1985 cards, from a previous set of packs. I'm hapt to have put this episode behind me now...
I agree 100%. He was always talking about how much $$ he was spending on product, but most of what he sold on ebay at least consisted of 1989 Fleer & 1986 Topps, and cards with BIN of $10 or less. Some inventory!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I PM'd Gary about a refund around last Wednesday, still haven't heard back. If I don't get one, I have all the packs from the football rip that can be used as evidence if anyone starts a class action lawsuit against him.
My refund has cleared and I will be sending Gary the cards back on Monday.
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For those of you who received a refund from the football rip, how did you contact Gary? I sent an email to the same email address I used for PayPal and haven't heard back. Does PM'ing work?
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<< <i>did you guys have to request the refund or did he just send it? >>
I sent him a pm for the refund, It took about 4-5 days for a response, and I now have a pending refund.
<< <i>I received a pm from Gary saying that he would not refund the late 70's early 80's rip. I told him I would be looking at other avenues to recoup my monies. >>
Red, did you see this thread? I posted Gary's reply to my PM regarding the late 70s-early 80s rip, too. Nothing coming our way from that, even though 80sJ said it was on the up-and-up. (I posted a link to the original thread in the one I just linked to.)
Keep in touch...
Pending refunds usually take up to 4 BDA to clear, so you should have your funds by Thursday.
I'm also pleased to hear that at least Gary is coming through with these refund requests. As others have said, I do give him credit for that, as most scammers would have been in the wind without a trace by now.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Bob C.
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
Bob C.
I agree with you in principle. My point was only that I'm surprised he's even made an effort to provide restitution to the members he has thus far.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
After all this is a guy with the means to drop 12K at the national right.
Maybe a little more heat is what he needs???
Bob C.
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
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Post office guys should have fun with that.
At a minimum, he has demonstrated enough integrity to follow through with the refunds.
Thanks Gary.
Doug
<< <i>I agree Grote and I too am happily surprised. I just wish he would pick up the pace.
After all this is a guy with the means to drop 12K at the national right.
Maybe a little more heat is what he needs???
Bob C. >>
I don't buy that he dropped $12k for one minute. He was trying to build some credibility and make it look like he would have no need to try and steal a couple hundred dollars. I think many of his posts and the frequency of his posts were simply trying to establish a sens of trust from the people he was targeting to send him money.
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I can't believe this group rip finally backfired. I am sorry for everyone involved.
Zef204 may have a point. Gary did enough of these group rips to build credibility only to be able to stick it in the end. Its an old technique. I hope you guys get a refund one way or another. It just goes to show that buying vintage wax is super risky unless BBCE, but even that is not 100% (at least you have seller willing to make things right on the spot if things don't turn out well, so I give credit for that).
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Red
Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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how ironic!
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
Cards will go back to Gary tomorrow, including the 84 Elway RC.
I appreciate him following through with this.
Recouping $155 of the $300+ I spend with Gary rips does make me feel better.
-t
------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
I agree 100%. He was always talking about how much $$ he was spending on product, but most of what he sold on ebay at least consisted of 1989 Fleer & 1986 Topps, and cards with BIN of $10 or less. Some inventory!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I'm not for sure if he done this because it's the right thing to do, or was some legal action put on him and that was the reason?
Whatever the reason was, I'm glad to get my money back on this deal. I had 12 packs of nothing but off centered,dinged up junk.
If I don't get one, I have all the packs from the football rip that can be used as evidence if anyone starts a class action lawsuit against him.
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
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For those of you who received a refund from the football rip, how did you contact Gary? I sent an email to the same email address I used for PayPal and haven't heard back. Does PM'ing work?
Thanks,
Tom
Doug
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>my claim was denied. >>
Was your claim that was denied made through PayPal or through your credit card bank?