1878 Morgan 7 TF. GRADE??? DMPL?? Variety?

superior · February 26, 2007 5:46PM

I just purchased this 1878 Morgan 7TF, What do you think the grade is??

I know that the pictures dont show too much detail but do you think it will grade DMPL?

Is this a particular variety?

Wolf359 · February 26, 2007 11:25PM

Oh gosh.

The coin looks lightly circulated and possibly cleaned. It's semi-PL, not PL or even DMPL. That balloon trick in the photos shows maybe an
inch of reflectivity, a true DMPL has 8 inches and a cameo appearance (generally, not always) of a DMPL coin. A good way to describe a DMPL is you could use the coin surface as a mirror to shave in.

There's no way to tell the variety with small photos. You really need much larger photos, especially with 1878 Morgans.

I'm sorry....

DennisH · February 26, 2007 11:39PM

What Wolf said on all counts...

coindeuce · February 26, 2007 11:45PM

Ditto on Wolf359. Better hope the seller has a solid return terms. I would have expected it to have been listed as a semi PL AU-58.

commoncents05 · February 26, 2007 11:46PM

Exactly what wolf said.

-Paul

messydesk · February 26, 2007 11:47PM

It looks like it's been polished. On a PL coin, only the fields are supposed to be reflective. On this one, Liberty's forehead is also reflective. I can see that the top of the 'o' in 'God' is broken and the 'r' in 'trust' is not, so the VAM number is between 140 and 146. About all I can rule out from the pictures are 145 and I think 140. I'd need better obverse pictures to tell beyond that.

commoncents05 · February 26, 2007 11:55PM

if you don't mind me asking, where do you buy your coins?

-Paul

Goober · February 27, 2007 2:50AM

Those pics look like they came from a well known Ebay whizzer/cleaner.

Coxe · February 27, 2007 3:06AM

I would be astonished if those were original surfaces. It was either a high AU or a basal state, nicked up UNC before it was messed with. Possibly VAM-143. B2b reverse anyway.

Rollerman · February 27, 2007 7:10AM

This coin is what we refer to as "chromed" around here. It's been buffed with jewelers rouge....at least that's what it looks like in the photo's. There will be no luster, and little difference between the devices and the fields the whole con will look like a chrome hubcap.
Sorry, but that's what it looks like to me.
Pete

1878 Morgan 7 TF. GRADE??? DMPL?? Variety?

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