1952 Topps (w/scans) - Guess The Grade! - Grades Popped - **Ebay Listed**
jeffcbay
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Fellow collectors, if you get a chance, I would like you to give me your honest opinion about what kind of grades you think these (14) cards would pull. Above every photo, I give my honest opinion about the condition of each card and what kind of grade I think they would get. I’m going to submit all of these cards at the end of this week.
I always love reading these kinds of posts, so I figured I would start one of my own. Thank you for your time!
I always love reading these kinds of posts, so I figured I would start one of my own. Thank you for your time!
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<< <i>nice cards - i think the ray boone might be factory miscut. it looks larger on the top left side. >>
I noticed that too, the right corner does the same thing. Strange...
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
6, 5 (maybe trimmed), 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, trimmed, trimmed, 6, 6, 6, 7. They're beautiful cards but I think you may be overgrading them a bit. Theoretically, PSA grades all cards equally regardless of the year. Even with a little leeway, I don't see a card with 4 slightly frayed corners getting a 7.
Lee
<< <i>I'm not sure how many are trimmed, but I think at least a few are. here is how I'd grade them based on the scans and assuming no creases/surface wrinkles:
6, 5 (maybe trimmed), 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, trimmed, trimmed, 6, 6, 6, 7. They're beautiful cards but I think you may be overgrading them a bit. Theoretically, PSA grades all cards equally regardless of the year. Even with a little leeway, I don't see a card with 4 slightly frayed corners getting a 7.
Lee >>
Thank you for your honesty, I do appreicate it! I really don't believe any of these are trimmed. That was the very first thing I checked for when I received them. I measured each card with a machinist scale (to the 1/64) and they are all dead-on-balls 2-5/8" x 3-3/4".
I do agree with you about the grading though, I was reallllly trying not to be bias, but it so hard not to be! lol Thank you.
#21 = psa 6
#26 psa 5
#41 psa 6
#48 psa 6
#54 psa 5
#55 psa 5
#75 psa 5
#99 psa 6
#138 not holdered
#139 not holdered
#155 psa 5
#203 psa 6
#233 psa 6
#292 psa 6
good luck with the submission. is this the first time ssubmitting 1952s?
pat
Lee
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<< <i>I'm not sure how many are trimmed, but I think at least a few are. here is how I'd grade them based on the scans and assuming no creases/surface wrinkles:
6, 5 (maybe trimmed), 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, trimmed, trimmed, 6, 6, 6, 7. They're beautiful cards but I think you may be overgrading them a bit. Theoretically, PSA grades all cards equally regardless of the year. Even with a little leeway, I don't see a card with 4 slightly frayed corners getting a 7.
Lee >>
Thank you for your honesty, I do appreicate it! I really don't believe any of these are trimmed. That was the very first thing I checked for when I received them. I measured each card with a machinist scale (to the 1/64) and they are all dead-on-balls 2-5/8" x 3-3/4".
I do agree with you about the grading though, I was reallllly trying not to be bias, but it so hard not to be! lol Thank you. >>
is dead-on-balls a technical term??
<< <i>is dead-on-balls a technical term??
No, but it should be! I can see it now... PSA 6 with a (DOB) qualifier
keep us updated as to the grades you receive.
<< <i>it is rather difficult for us to grade the cards just from looking at scans. its easier in person so you should have a better idea than us. >>
I understand, I tried to give the best scans that I could, within reason. I just thought it would be interesting to compare our thoughts with PSA "official" grades. Like I said, I always enjoy seeing other pre-sub and post-sub results, so I thought I would add to the flavor. We'll see!
You've got some really nice cards.
Did you use a 10X loupe?
To start with the Fain - if the upper left corner is really fuzzy - IMO, it's got a shot at a 7 - but definitely a nice 6.
On the cards that Lee saw as trimmed? Without measurement - that's how I saw them also.
Anyway - good luck - please let us know how the sub goes.
So - where did you pick these gems up?
Thanx for sharing
mike
good luck! sweet set.
JOhn
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
<< <i>Did you use a 10X loupe?
So - where did you pick these gems up?
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No loupe, just some good light and 30 year old eyes.
I got the from our favorite, ebay... took a chance, and BIG chance. I had some F-U money laying around and thought it would be fun to handle some 1952 Topps cards. My intent was to buy them, grade them, and sell them. Kind of an experiment. I won't be heart-broken if I don't make my money back (spent $21 per card average). This is the fun part of the hobby, I'm not in it to make money, but that IS a nice part about our hobby. It's enjoyable to me.
<< <i>I actually just lost it for a minute reading that. It's been awhile since that is happened.
What's the joke? I'm guessing if I don't know the joke, that means I'M the joke. That's cool...
I listed 14 cards in this thread, but I only sent in 12 of them. Anyway, I'm happy, and I was pretty close with my original guesses.
1 04597532 1952 TOPPS 21 FERRIS FAIN BLACK BACK 7 (I guessed 7)
2 04597533 1952 TOPPS 26 MONTY IRVIN BLACK BACK 6 (I guessed 6)
3 04597534 1952 TOPPS 41 BOB WELLMAN BLACK BACK 7 (I guessed 7)
4 04597535 1952 TOPPS 48 JOE PAGE CORRECT BIO-BLACK BACK 5 (I guessed 6)
5 04597536 1952 TOPPS 54 LEO KIELY BLACK BACK 6 I guessed 6)
6 04597537 1952 TOPPS 75 WES WESTRUM N/A 6 (I guessed 5)
7 04597538 1952 TOPPS 99 GENE WOODLING N/A 6 (I guessed 6)
8 04597539 1952 TOPPS 139 KEN WOOD N/A 5 (I guessed 6)
9 04597540 1952 TOPPS 155 FRANK OVERMIRE N/A 6 (I guessed 7)
10 04597541 1952 TOPPS 203 CURT SIMMONS N/A Not Holdered, Re-Colored (I guessed 7)
11 04597542 1952 TOPPS 233 BOB FRIEND N/A 5 (I guessed 6)
12 04597543 1952 TOPPS 292 FLOYD BAKER N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming (I guessed 6)
Date Received: 03/12/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 03/21/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified
All will be posted on ebay once I receive them from PSA.
Ron
Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
Lee
<< <i>Definetly in the 5 or 6 catagory for sure with a couple possible trims.Nice cards for sure. >>
Good job on the grades, Jeff. Are they for your collection or selling?
<< <i>Good job on the grades, Jeff. Are they for your collection or selling? >>
Selling, I'm planning on posting them on ebay as soon as they arrive. It was it be a fun experiment to check out some cards from the hobby's coolest set (IMO), and I wanted to see if I can get them graded and make a little money at the same time. I was hoping for one 7, so I'm ecstatic I got two!