Should I send this steel cent to NCS or leave it alone? --- UPDATED ---
BECOKA
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Just curious what the masses think. There is a bit of gunk in the date that is annoying me. This is in a PCGS MS68 holder. Basically will they do more damage than good or will I be able to send this back to PCGS for the same grade?
UPDATE 3/1/2007: I decided to send this back to PCGS to see what they can do. If the spots are removable then great but if they turn out to be corrosive and damaging then I will do my part and hopefully they will remove the coin from the holder. Of course I am hoping that is stays in a new holder with the spots removed.
UPDATE 4/30/2007: Well it did not stay in the holder. Another problem coin is removed from the population reports. PCGS said that the spots could not be removed and made me a fair offer. I received the check and raw coin back today.
Now that the coin is removed from the holder, there are additional darks spots on the edges of the coin as well. Looks like a coin that must have turned after being graded and slabbed and just stored in poor conditions by the previous owner/s.
UPDATE 3/1/2007: I decided to send this back to PCGS to see what they can do. If the spots are removable then great but if they turn out to be corrosive and damaging then I will do my part and hopefully they will remove the coin from the holder. Of course I am hoping that is stays in a new holder with the spots removed.
UPDATE 4/30/2007: Well it did not stay in the holder. Another problem coin is removed from the population reports. PCGS said that the spots could not be removed and made me a fair offer. I received the check and raw coin back today.
Now that the coin is removed from the holder, there are additional darks spots on the edges of the coin as well. Looks like a coin that must have turned after being graded and slabbed and just stored in poor conditions by the previous owner/s.
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Rob the Newbie
<< <i>I have so much to learn, if I didnt know it was slabbed I would say the field to the right is scratched, hence cleaned.
Rob the Newbie >>
Die Polishing lines.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Send it to PCGS, not NCS. Let PCGS remove the gunk. >>
I know they have done this for special circumstances in the past but how do you ask them to do this?
<< <i>Send it to PCGS, not NCS. Let PCGS remove the gunk. >>
Isn't there some magic felt that will help any coin?
it doesn't look better than a 67 with the toning (gunk) on the date
the die polish lines kind of detract for a 68 imho
when NCS is done, it will be worth less without the PCGS plastic
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>I've submitted a lot of 1943 pds cents to pcgs, never got a 68 even on flawless specimens. With all those obverse ticks and the rim ding, it's incredible to me that they gave this a 68. >>
Thats not a rim ding, it's notch in the gel that holds the coin.
-Paul
<< <i>I would send it to PCGS, or leave it alone.
-Paul >>
I would send it to PCGS, it looks like corrosion and will only get worse. The steel corrodes very quickly. Essentially the coin is toast, 66 at best now and probably BB corrosion in a couple of years.
<< <i>how can you tell the difference between die polish lines and a cleaned coin? >>
Cleaning leaves scratches in the coin, Die polish lines are raised lines on the coin caused by scratches in the die that allows the coin metal to flow into them.
1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
Jonathan
<< <i>How much is it worth TO YOU? I know it is nearly one of a kind in 68, the highest the price guides seem to go is $80 for a 67. But selling value aside, how much is it worth to you. If NCS screws it up, how long will you be sad? I say leave it be. It is a gorgeous coin.
Jonathan >>
That is a good way of rephrasing what I am trying to figure out. It is not worth it to me if I lose the grade but yet I have to look at it and am not please at that spot. I think I may try the PCGS route to see if they can pull any miracles to remove it.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Die polishing shows up as raised lines on the coin.
Cleaning shows up as incuse scratches.
Pete
<< <i>Is it 2 grades better than this 66 on Teletrade tonight, notwithstanding the spot?
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Honestly I could not tell you from Teletrades Pics as the way it was taken could hide dozens of little nicks and we would never see it until we had it in hand.
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>Is it 2 grades better than this 66 on Teletrade tonight, notwithstanding the spot?
Sure is....the plastic tells me so.
Also, without seeing it in hand, and only pictures that I didn't take, I will take the plastic's word in this case
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I would sell it on Ebay as a possible upgrade candidate. Once the gunk is gone, it should go MS69, right? >>
Send it to SGS, it'll hit 70 fer sher....
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
Now that the coin is removed from the holder, there are additional darks spots on the edges of the coin as well. Looks like a coin that must have turned after being graded and slabbed and just stored in poor conditions.
<< <i>Now NCS it. What do you have to lose
I was thinking the same thing. Either way it will probably be my starter coin for a Dansco 7070. Unless of course it comes back as a 69.
<< <i>Send it to PCGS, not NCS. Let PCGS remove the gunk. >>
Don't they have some sort of magic felt pad for that?
Careful....This isnt OFR