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Is this the trend on auctions?

theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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I received an auction catalog from Huggins & Scott for an upcoming auction. (They still have 15% juice). What I noticed are many mid-grade raw sets at or near completion from the 1950's and 60's. Some years have multiple offerings. There are seven 1964 sets, six from 1967 etc. (both days combined).

Now I have nothing against anyone wanting to do a raw set. But I would think most of the fun of puting together a raw set would be do get the cards here and there on my own. Plunking down several hundred dollars on a raw set pretty much sight unscene doesn't seem like there is much of a challenge. Any raw collectors out there tell me what you think.

And if I were a consignor I would not be happy about all of the competition of very similar items selling with the same auction company at the same time.



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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Agree with the competition thing. As a seller, I'd be pissed.

    As to buying a complete raw set as opposed to building one, some folks just don't have the time.
    Also, someone may want to buy a set after they have already put one together just to get some upgrades.

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  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    I remember an older member buying several raw sets and then taking the best possible examples from each card. Some dealers will also buy them to break them up, depending on the condition.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...buying several raw sets and then taking the best possible examples from each card. Some dealers will also buy them to break them up, depending on the condition. "

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  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>I remember an older member buying several raw sets and then taking the best possible examples from each card. Some dealers will also buy them to break them up, depending on the condition. >>



    Mickey does that frequently.
  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963


    << <i>I received an auction catalog from Huggins & Scott for an upcoming auction. (They still have 15% juice). What I noticed are many mid-grade raw sets at or near completion from the 1950's and 60's. Some years have multiple offerings. There are seven 1964 sets, six from 1967 etc. (both days combined).

    Now I have nothing against anyone wanting to do a raw set. But I would think most of the fun of puting together a raw set would be do get the cards here and there on my own. Plunking down several hundred dollars on a raw set pretty much sight unscene doesn't seem like there is much of a challenge. Any raw collectors out there tell me what you think.

    And if I were a consignor I would not be happy about all of the competition of very similar items selling with the same auction company at the same time. >>



    Agreed. Next Mastro auction has 3 PSA-graded 1952 Topps Mantles for sale; I saw this in the lastest SMR inside cover and shook my head.
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    Edited to add: AT LEAST 3 Mantles. PSA 6, 7, 8 for certain if I recall correctly. Memory Lane seems to really be gaining momentum.
  • brumbachbrumbach Posts: 329
    Didn't the last Mastro Premier auction have like 4 or 5 Mantles? It seemed like it was more than 3. I think that the raw sets is more of Huggins and Scott thing, I don't notice that much of it in other auctions; everyone seems to have their own way of presenting certain lots. Has anyone every consigned something to an auction house? What level of communication is there? What obligations do you have as a consigner? If you consign a raw 1957 Topps set, can you request notification if another similar set is going to be in the same auction? Or are you pretty much obligate to just throw your items into the black void and hope for the best?
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "If you consign a raw 1957 Topps set, can you request notification if
    another similar set is going to be in the same auction? "

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    Sure.

    You will have to negotiate what kind of fee (if any)
    you will pay if you decide to opt out.

    One thing to consider when buying raw cards from
    major auction houses:

    These boys are some of the largest submitters to PSA.
    If a lot will bring more graded than ungraded, the cards
    will almost always be submitted.

    Some of the same perils of buying raw cards on EBAY exist
    when you deal with the big auction houses.
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  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    I sold some cards at Mile High and it was a great experience. I got way more than I thought I would. WAY WAY MORE. I would recommend Brian and Jose to anyone. I sold 53 PSA 10 1986 Fleer Basketball (Dumars was the biggest star) and I got over $6000 for them. I was thrilled. Plus there was no sellers juice

    The problem with these auctions is that so much of this stuff is recycled. Most of us are some sort of long term registry participants. So for example say you collect 1956 baseball and a top set is being broken up at an auction. The registry people bid on it and is off the market for a long time. There is less and less of that different high graded stuff out there. The rest is pass along stuff. Sure it may be high $$$, but not rare. I am on everyone's catalog mailing list and it seems that there is less interesting stuff to bid on with each auction. Unless a person with a high registered set decides to break up a set, it is the same old stuff being shown over and over.

    If you have some interesting quality stuff, these company's are begging for it. If you decide to consign, never pay a sellers fee.
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