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Supposed Matte Proof SLQ on eBay

commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
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I can't believe people are believing this. By the bids, it looks like they are. Opinions?

-Paul
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    No SLQs have ever been certified as sandblast proofs, although some insist that they exist for 1917. There is no known documentation for any "proof" SLQ except some of the 1916 patterns.

    (Details in "Renaissance of American Coinage 1916-1921.)
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭
    good return policy, no restocking fee, photo looks mildly intriguing


    i've seen people take way crazier swings than this one....
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    In JH Cline's book, he says they do exist, and shows a pic as well as a signed letter from Walter Breen who verfies it as a proof as well.

    -Paul
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who would buy ANY raw matt proof coin off eBay? No one in their right mind.

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  • marzmarz Posts: 1,601
    who is matt? image

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    matt proof, you know, the guy that matts proof.
    ya, that guy.
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  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    It's "topline".........again. Check out the "MS66 Red" 1900 Indian Head Cent he sold on 2-16 for $124.40 He made that look "pebbly" too.
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭
    Quite frankly, i'd sooner buy a raw coin from this guy with his return policy than a top three tpg coin from a seller with a restocking fee...


    He might grade ambitiously, but at least there's little downside risk.



    but hey, that's just me
  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    Check out his "MS-64/65 Red" 1911S Lincoln.

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    He's playing games with his images, all of them.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    YIKES! that 11-S is sick! How about this 1914 Lincoln. This seller is terrible.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    He's playing games with the hue, the grain, the moire, and who knows what else.
  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    Here's his 1865 "MS-64 Red" Indian. This is as much as I was able to restore the "enhanced" image. Notice how he uses the same denim background, and yet, it changes dramatically from coin to coin, obverse to reverse. The pic of this coin had been altered enough to turn the blue denim to solid black.

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  • jgrinzjgrinz Posts: 985 ✭✭✭
    Bidder 4 Looks like a shill too ..
    IMHO
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  • DenverDaveDenverDave Posts: 2,164



    << <i>zenny wrote: Quite frankly, i'd sooner buy a raw coin from this guy with his return policy than a top three tpg coin from a seller with a restocking fee...


    He might grade ambitiously, but at least there's little downside risk.



    but hey, that's just me >>




    You my Friend are this man's lawful pray..."-(

    That's like finding someone breaking into your house and then not pressing charges because he gave back your stuff...

    The guy is Destroying History with every auction, with or without a return policy...

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  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭


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    << <i>zenny wrote: Quite frankly, i'd sooner buy a raw coin from this guy with his return policy than a top three tpg coin from a seller with a restocking fee...


    He might grade ambitiously, but at least there's little downside risk.



    but hey, that's just me >>




    You my Friend are this man's lawful pray..."-(

    That's like finding someone breaking into your house and then not pressing charges because he gave back your stuff...

    The guy is Destroying History with every auction, with or without a return policy...
    >>




    "My friend," I ain't nobody's "pray," lawful or otherwise.


    All I'm saying is with coins in sgs, nnc, acg, ntc, oh yeah, my favorite "CSI" freakin slabs with either no return policy or egregious restocking fees for these "professionally graded coins," i'll exercise my own judgment of the quality of the coin AND the chances that if it's a dog i'll get my money back and deal with smoeone like this ten times more frequently than one who won't stand behind their POSs.

    I meant to mention that i noticed this listing earlier in the evening while prowling ebay and didn't even bother opening it up to look at it BECAUSE it wasn't in a RESPECTED third party slab, but hey, that's just me as well.........
  • jomjom Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree wtih Zenny. If the coin turns out to be "worth" the $800 and it grades out as such why not take a shot? It's pretty obvious this is probably not a matte proof but who cares if you like the coin?

    I should point out however given this issue is rather common you probably could find plenty of these around in slabs that are just as nice. But since this seller isn't charging restocking and allows returns I don't see the harm.

    jom
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    New seller, boatloads of raw coins, juiced images. Doesn't really take much thought to make a decision about this one.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-63 - 64 Indian cent - really?

    Tell me the grade of his Indian cent first, then I'll decide. image

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Some poor sucker paid $2650 for this coin. Terrible

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    That's obscene.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some poor sucker paid $2650 for this coin. >>



    Holy crap!

    Russ, NCNE

    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS-63 - 64 Indian cent - really?

    Tell me the grade of his Indian cent first, then I'll decide. image >>



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