Quick question about European grading standards

Silvereagle82

I know. I know ........ this may be a stupid question but is "good extremely fine" a higher grade for a coin than "extremely fine"?

coinkat

yes...

Silvereagle82

Thanks coinkat

coinkat

you are welcome... There is one notworthy commentary I should add... Good EF coins can still have what I would describe as a range in quality. As an example, a Good EF will usually be well struck, but could still have hairlines that some may find annoying.

MrEureka

Good EF should be understood to mean anything from AU50 to MS68, although there is no guaranty that it won't bodybag.

So now you know how to figure your bid.

SYRACUSIAN

Andy, show me one gEF that has ever graded higher than 63 and I will believe you.


Silvereagle, these words are often used to make up for the lack of grades in between. The opposite of good,is about, for example I graded the coin that I had in my recent giveaway as gF-aVF, which meant good Fine- about Very Fine, a more precise way than call it F-VF. There's no such thing as good unc though, but plenty of about unc,or in German, fast stgl, apparently better than vorzuglich-stempelglanz, but the rest is guess work. It's hard to assign a numerical grade to these terms, it's more on a coin per coin and on a dealer to dealer basis. Fast stgl in bronze might translate to 65RB, it only means that the coin is not full red, but it can be a lesser grade too. The one grade to be fearful of, is unc but dull, you never know what to expect there, except for the fact that it's going to be a bad surprise, maybe even a cleaned coin.

MacCrimmon

<< <i>Andy, show me one gEF that has ever graded higher than 63 and I will believe you.


Silvereagle, these words are often used to make up for the lack of grades in between. The opposite of good,is about, for example I graded the coin that I had in my recent giveaway as gF-aVF, which meant good Fine- about Very Fine, a more precise way than call it F-VF. There's no such thing as good unc though, but plenty of about unc,or in German, fast stgl, apparently better than vorzuglich-stempelglanz, but the rest is guess work. It's hard to assign a numerical grade to these terms, it's more on a coin per coin and on a dealer to dealer basis. Fast stgl in bronze might translate to 65RB, it only means that the coin is not full red, but it can be a lesser grade too. The one grade to be fearful of, is unc but dull, you never know what to expect there, except for the fact that it's going to be a bad surprise, maybe even a cleaned coin. >>




Standards? It matters not what the grading scale defines; what matters is the consistent application of the standard by all parties.

Of course, there is such a thing as good Unc. (gUnc). I might add, there are also coins which are better unc. (bUnc), and best unc (bstUnc). Occasionally, one comes across a coin which all parties might agree is "better than best unc.", btbUnc, or just btBUNK. btBUNK is generally equated to a PCGS MS68 coin. For clarity, an NGC MS68 coin is probably only a "slightly worse than btBUNK", or, swtbtBUNK. I would also be remiss if I didn't point out that 10-20% of the time the NGC-graded, swtbtBUNK coin will cross to the PCGS btBUNK slab.

coinkat

Dimitri:

There is a coin that I bought as a GEF and currently is housed in a 64 holder... seriously... it does happen once in a while. The coin deserved the grade... it is truly has eye appeal.

BS

Dimitri, here's a PCGS MS64 that CNG grades superb EF Text and here's a PCGS MS65 that they grade superb EF Text