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OK, what is the best one-year FB team of all-time?

JeffJ99JeffJ99 Posts: 91
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Who would you pick, 85 Bears, 86 Giants, 76 Raiders, 78 Steelers, 84 49ers, 89 49ers, 72 Dolphins, 96 Packers, or perhaps 06 Colts?? Some other team?

I guess I'll say the '89 49ers because I remember watching them that year, thinking they could just beat anybody anytime. With Montana and Rice in their prime-not to mention John Taylor and the rest of the team-they just seemed unbeatable and walloped the Broncos in the Super Bowl that season. That was the year after they beat Boomer Esiason and the bengals, and the year before the Giants beat them in the NFC Championship game, ending their chance for 3 straight.

Any thoughts?

Jeff

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  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    92 Cowboys !

    13-3 Regular Season

    Beat the Eagles 34-10 in the Divisional Playoffs

    Beat the 49ers 30-20 in the NFC Chamionship Game

    Beat the Bills 52-17 in the SUPER BOWL

    Those are some very very good teams that Dallas had to beat to win it all

    Dave
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    On the NFL Network they have a program called America's Game in which they are profiling the 40 Super Bowl champs. The top 4 were:

    1. 72 Dolphins
    2. 85 Bears
    3. 78 Steelers
    4. 89 49ers

    It is an unbelievable show and worth watching for certain.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>On the NFL Network they have a program called America's Game in which they are profiling the 40 Super Bowl champs. The top 4 were:

    1. 72 Dolphins
    2. 85 Bears
    3. 78 Steelers
    4. 89 49ers

    It is an unbelievable show and worth watching for certain. >>



    One of the best shows in recent memory for me. Absolutely brought me back in time. My vote goes to the '85 Bears. Best defense I ever saw and a very good offense to boot. I was too young, I didn't see the '78 Steelers play, or I probably would have voted for them!
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    gosteelers, i would've voted for the 85 Bears but the team they beat in the Super Bowl that year has to be one of the worst teams ever to make it to the SB.

    btw, you missed a very good 78 Steelers team

    Dave
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>gosteelers, i would've voted for the 85 Bears but the team they beat in the Super Bowl that year has to be one of the worst teams ever to make it to the SB.

    btw, you missed a very good 78 Steelers team

    Dave >>



    Dave,
    Point taken about the '85 Pats. I just remember that defense was absolutely smothering the second half of that year into the playoffs, shutting out both the Giants and Rams in the playoffs. After watching America's Game, I forgot how good that '92-'93 Cowboys team really was. Even though they would have beaten anyone from the AFC that year, that Bills team wasn't the greatest. That particular year, the Super Bowl was between SF and Dallas...

    Mark
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>92 Cowboys !

    13-3 Regular Season

    Beat the Eagles 34-10 in the Divisional Playoffs

    Beat the 49ers 30-20 in the NFC Chamionship Game

    Beat the Bills 52-17 in the SUPER BOWL

    Those are some very very good teams that Dallas had to beat to win it all

    Dave >>



    Would have been 59-17 if it wasnt for Leon Lett.

    He made up for it the following year though stripping Thurman Thomas in the SuperBowl image

    Good choice Dave!

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    For me, it would be a tie between the 92 and 93 Oilers.

    They should have won it all both years, without a doubt... Instead they broke my heart, again and again image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    i am partial to the 96 packers, maybe sitting in the seats at the super bowl had something to do with it. but they had a great offense (except when the WR's were decemented in mid to late season 3 game losing streak), a strong defense and surperb special teams.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For me, it would be a tie between the 92 and 93 Oilers.

    They should have won it all both years, without a doubt... Instead they broke my heart, again and again image >>





    They were up like 35-3 right? and Buffalo had ahh umm Frank Reich? in? (Just giving ya a hard time) image
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>For me, it would be a tie between the 92 and 93 Oilers.

    They should have won it all both years, without a doubt... Instead they broke my heart, again and again image >>





    They were up like 35-3 right? and Buffalo had ahh umm Frank Reich? in? (Just giving ya a hard time) image >>



    image

    And then Joe Freaking Montana the next year, playing at home in the Dome, with a lead at halftime.

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    "One year" --------Bears 1985.
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  • VolverVolver Posts: 753
    No votes for the 1976 Buccaneers???? Best one year team, has to be the '72 Dolphins. Bottom-line is this, they did not lose a game and that IS all that matters.

    I am a Browns fan not a Dolphins, just wanted to say that
  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    Even though it is the best one year team, you still need to take into consideration the previous year's team, and the following year's team. This will give a better gauge on the true 'goodness' of that one year. It takes a little bit of the chance factor out, and eliminates some randomness.

    For instance, nobody can better the '72 Dolphins...undefeated. But I don't think the question is that simple, otherwise the list would simply be the team with the best record, and that also won the Super Bowl that year. But a lot of factors go into that, and that interrupts the truth.

    Another example. Is this question being asked on the premise that if these two teams were somehow able to meet up right now, who would win(or have a better season)? If so, then would the 1985 Bears roster reproduce that exact performance? No. Randomness plays a role. How do we know? Well, in 1986, they didn't, and it was pretty much the same team. The were great, but it didn't translate to a Super Bowl. They also didn't in 1984.

    Compare that to the '92 Cowboys. Given that you know that they were good enough to do greatness over a longer period of time(with basically the sam personel), chances are you will see that elite performance when you play them. Chances are with the Bears, you may see the '85 performance, BUT you may also see the '86 playoff performance when you play them. I would rather take my chances playing the team that wasnt able to sustain it, as the variables may bring them down a bit.

    And for all the talk I have always said about Troy Aikman having the best supporting cast...well it is true, and that makes for one heckuva football team that could beat you on the ground, through the air, and on defense. And they had a much better division to face (than say the '85 Bears), and tougher playoff matchups too.
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    I watched all of the America's Game episodes and they were excellent...

    For me, based simply on dominance over the competition at the time, I have to go with the 78 Steelers...Alot of people forget how good they really were, but when you watch highlights or Steeler games from that season you are reminded their dominance.

    They went 14-2..Won their 2 AFC Playoff games 33-10 and 34-5..While they weren't shutting teams out as previous Steeler teams had done is was still #3 in total yards, and their offense was also explosive in '78...Bradshaw was in his prime and led the league in TD passes..They sent 10 players to the Pro Bowl and had 9 HOFers on their roster..2 more players from the team have been HOF Finalists..The Head Coach was also inducted...The Steelers dynasty was at their pinnacle in '78...

    They were evil, wicked, mean and nasty..Just like any respectable football team should be...lol

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  • StevenJackson39StevenJackson39 Posts: 252
    What about the 99 Rams?? Or even the 01 Rams (even tho they didnt finish in the end)
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  • JeffJ99JeffJ99 Posts: 91
    Some interesting and good answers. I can't believe I overlooked the 92 Cowboys at first. They were a great team with Aikman, Emmitt, Irvin, Harper, Johnston, and a young, fast defense. And they had to beat some really good teams to get there. I remember being stunned that they beat the 49ers in the championship game. But that showed they were a great team capable of winning the big one on the road. Another team worth mentioning is those 91 Redskins with Mark Rypien at QB. That team was dominant and very complete. Sure fell off though. I don't think they even made the playoffs the next year.

    Jeff
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What about the 99 Rams?? Or even the 01 Rams (even tho they didnt finish in the end) >>



    The '99 Rams were very good, but not in the Top 10 of all time, IMO. You can't even consider the '01 team. They didn't win the Super Bowl, as you noted...
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    If so, then would the 1985 Bears roster reproduce that exact performance? No. Randomness plays a role. How do we know? Well, in 1986, they didn't, and it was pretty much the same team. The were great, but it didn't translate to a Super Bowl. They also didn't in 1984.

    Let's not forget that in '84 and '86 that those two years produced two of the other possible 10 best teams of all time. The '84 Niners and '86 Giants. In '84, the Bears lost to this very same Niners team. I can't recall who the Bears lost to in the '86 Playoffs (possibly the Redskins)...
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    The 92 Cowboys did not even have the best record in the NFC and they beat a wild card team in the Super Bowl. They played 5 teams with winning records all season. I cannot remember where they ranked on the list but I would be surprised if it was top 10.

    The 72 Dolphins went undefeated. In 71 they lost in the Super Bowl and in 73 they won the Super Bowl after a 12-2 season. They had to deal with the up and coming Raiders and Steelers.

    The 84 Bears lost in the NFC Championship game to the 15-1 49ers. The 86 Bears finished 14-2.
    The 85 Bears while they played in a weak division pounded the good teams. Here are their games against teams above .500

    New England 20-7
    Washington 45-10
    @San Fransisco 26-10
    @ Dallas 44-0
    @ Miami 24-38
    @NYJ 19-6
    Play-Offs
    NYG 21-0
    LA Rams 24-0
    New England 46-10
    Record 8-1 combined score 269-81 average score 30-9
    If you take out the Dolphins game the average score is 31-5.

  • alpemomoalpemomo Posts: 355 ✭
    Even though it is the best one year team, you still need to take into consideration the previous year's team, and the following year's team. This will give a better gauge on the true 'goodness' of that one year. It takes a little bit of the chance factor out, and eliminates some randomness.

    For instance, nobody can better the '72 Dolphins...undefeated. But I don't think the question is that simple, otherwise the list would simply be the team with the best record, and that also won the Super Bowl that year. But a lot of factors go into that, and that interrupts the truth.

    Skip based on your qualifications the 72 Fins get the nod. They went to SB 71, they went undefeated in 72 (17-0) they won the sb in 73 (14-2) they won 32 of 34 games in a two year period. Also if it wasn't for the cheapness of Joe Robbie (he let Csonka, Kiick and Warfiled leave the team because he refused to pay them) I wonder if they would have won a few more... Imagine the Steelers withouy Swan, Harris and Stallworth or Dallas without Smith, Irving and Aikman or SF without Rice, Craig
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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭✭
    The 1972 Dolphins didn't even get the home field in the AFC title game. Homefield was alternated every other year throughout the divisions. They had to go on the road to Pittsburgh and still won the game and eventually the Super Bowl. Pretty impressive and I'm a Steelers fan.image
  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    Yes, the '72 Dolphins do have an impressive three year record. That is a good barometer.

    For the Cowboys, I am kind of looking at personnel too. Though I would have to admit, they don't seem to add up to some of the best ever(based on their W/L records).
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I think if you're looking at a 2-3 year span, it's the Dolphins. 'One moment in time' season? The Bears, I think...
  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    Well I know in Madden the '09 Chiefs are absolutely stacked. image

    Since I'm too young to remember much before the Cowboys of the 90's I don't have a lot of experience.

    I will say that a team that is getting missed here (and I absolutely hate to say this) are the 97 & 98 Broncos SB teams. No one was better that Terrell Davis those years and Elway wasn't too bad either.
    Travis
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