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Stupid ebay question...

I used my 'other' ebay handle and bought a toy for my kiddo and I have a feeling the seller didn't like the .99 cent winning bid. I got an email from him saying, without apology or even a decent tone that the listing was a mistake. I'd paid by paypal and he refunded my money at some point today. I suppose I should just be glad I didn't get ripped off, but...is there a link to report him to ebay for refusing to follow through? Something like the non-paying bidder but for the seller?

You know, I'm a big marshmallow and would have let him off the hook if he was just a little contrite, but he wasn't at all. So now I'm feeling a tad vindictive image. I suppose I could just neg him and ruin his 100% feedback...but then there'd be retaliatory feedback etc. which is pretty lame over a toy. I'd rather him get a nasty email from ebay...he's not a power-s#@**!# yet so they may not be so defensive of him.


Cathy

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  • The stange thing with ebay is that you are contracted as the buyer but not as the seller.image
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would report him to eBay for refusing to ship an item.
  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would report him to eBay for refusing to ship an item. >>

    What is the best way to report him? I clicked on 'report this item' at the bottom of the page, which brings up the fraudulent listing page. There is a choice for not recieving the item, but in this case he just plain old refused payment. Is this still the best link to use? Thanks image



    Cathy

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, you should use "Fraudulent listing" -> "You paid but didn't receive your item" for that...
  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    I may be totally out in left field, but I seem to remember someone posting that a seller on ebay is NOT OBLIGATED to sell to anybody. He can refuse for any reason, as long as he has not kept the money. Could be way wrong on this, but a careful reading of ebay rules may be in order before taking further action that may draw a NEG feedback.
  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, that would be just stinky on general principle.


  • Well, that would be just stinky on general principle

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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Actually, the seller *IS* obligated to fulfill his end of the sale. Do a search in Ebay help for "non-selling seller". You can report him.


  • << <i>Well, that would be just stinky on general principle. >>

    Also a breach of contract under California law, and probably under the laws in every state. Contract law involves the concept of "mutual obligation", and except in clearly stated option situations neither side is obligated until the other one is.
    Roy


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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I suprised no one commented on the vindictiveness of females imageimageimage. I toyed with the idea of reporting it as fee-avoidance (ie didn't set a reserve or a higher minimum for an item he had no intention to sell at my price...). In this case I got a $5 toy for 99 cents so really it probably was a mistake and not a real avoidance issue, so I skipped that link. I found the ebay link to report a non-performing seller and did so...he's not a power-seller, so who knows, maybe ebay may do something. If nothing else, if he is an incipient dirtbag I have laid the groundwork for when he really screws someone over.

    The funny thing is, if the guy had been at all nice and/or apologetic I would have let it go. Instead I got a terse email saying the listing was a mistake and a paypal refund later that day. Several times I have offered to let people off the hook for an auction that went too low. Once I was shipped the wrong coin and by the time we'd straightened it out the seller had relisted it and sold it again by mistake. She was nice about it, left me good feedback and I did the same. Mistakes do happen, but geez, if only he hadn't copped an attitude. (I wonder if I used my primary ebay handle with 650+ feedback he would have treated me the same. The one I used only has under 30 feedback and looks like a newbie account--he probably figured I would't have the nerve to try and rat him out. He can sweat out the feedback grace period...I doubt I'll leave him any but he doesn't know that!).


    PS--I doubt anyone needs to worry about him...he sells action figures and cartoon artwork mostly. I was shopping for my 9 year old, I swear! If anyone REALLY wants to know who it is I'll pm you...but then you have to forget you ever saw my other ebay name image.

  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, one last silly comment and question...

    The bozo has now relisted the toy for a $20 BIN, so yes he does have it, and just didn't like my price!

    So now ebay has gotten all it's non-performing seller info, I reported him for fee avoidance and now he's going to get a NEG (it's a disposable account anyway..). I even called my super secret 1800 ebay number and I was assured he has gotten his nastygram by now.

    I know it doesn't hurt him this time, but if he keeps up this type of behavior, at least the track record is there.

    What is the last day I can put in my negative? I'd like to do it at the last minute in hopes he doesn't see it in time to retaliate.


    Did I mention vindictive?


    Cathy


    (PS I do, however, refuse to invoke the word lawyer over a 99cent/$20 item image)



  • << <i>What is the last day I can put in my negative? I'd like to do it at the last minute in hopes he doesn't see it in time to retaliate. >>

    The problem is that they close the feedback window at "about" so many days (either 60 or 90 if I recall correctly). However, sometimes they close it a few days early - happened to me when I was trying to post a last minute neg on one of their image power sellers. Other times they leave it open a few extra days. I had one that I wasn't going to give any feedback still on my list to do about 5 days after the supposed cutoff.

    Like everything else, their organization is kinda messed up. image
    Roy


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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd almost forgotten this one...I was able to report him and I guess he heard about it because I got a much more extensive email the next day that was actually reasonably polite. Still wouldn't budge. I guess it was worth it to lose a potential repeat customer over what ended up being a pretty small price differential on a toy that's not too hard to find.

    I used the Hong Kong ebay to get the extra letters and left him this feedback (neutral as he eventually got polite and he had refunded my money very quickly):

    "REFUSED TO COMPLETE TRANSACTION. Apparently wanted more money as relisted in 24 hrs. Terse email until reported-then polite."

    I wonder if he'll even notice I got the extra letters? Nice trick for my 'newbie' ID imageimageimage.

    If he leaves a response about a 'listing error' all I will say is that the auction was up for a week and he didn't bother pulling it, and refused to honor valid bid.

    Pretty dumb over a small toy, both on his part and my part to react--In the grand scheme of the world this is ridiculous, but I just hate seeing someone work this way. PooPooHead.

    Okay, rant over. I'm moving over to the giveaway thread now where I have been accused of being nice imageimage


    Cathy


    PS (like how I added 'apparently' to my comment image)

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