Would ADD or ADHD be a barrier to coin collecting?
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Inability to concentrate or pay attention I would guess that could be a problem if you wanted to collect coins. (or just about anyting).
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<< <i>Why would you ask such a question? >>
I don't really know, it just popped into my head for some reason.
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<< <i>I really doubt that it would be a problem it the person had a real interest. My son has ADD and one thing that I have found is that he can concentrate on things that he enjoys. >>
Yep. Also, there are many levels of ADD, from very mild to so severe it affects every aspect of living.
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<< <i> I for one have it to a low extent without the hyperness. >>
This is an important (or not) point. Actually, there is no such thing as ADD anymore. The accepted "official" term is ADHD. Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. When I asked quite a few experts at a symposium I attended last year about ADHD without hyperactivity and why it wasn't just called ADD like in the past, I got a bunch of blank stares.
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<< <i>Why would you ask such a question? >>
<< <i>I don't really know, it just popped into my head for some reason.
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ADD isn't a form of autism.
Also, it seems there is a misunderstanding of ADD vs OCD. ADD would be pretty much irrelevant. If one had very serious OCD - that could indeed cause many problems as a coin collector. Certainly it would be counterproductive to check a coin 50 times a day to see if there is something not right about it, etc.
If one were very paranoid that could also be an issue. Maybe PCGS keeps switching coins on me - or maybe they've started inserting some sort of device that tracks the coin - or perhaps PCGS is replacing your coins with ones made out of uranium?
<< <i>ADHD is one of the so-called diseases that has been fabricated by the drug companies to sell Ritalin and amphetamines. >>
This is not true. Apparently, lack of knowledge is no barrier to having an opinion though.
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<< <i>ADHD is one of the so-called diseases that has been fabricated by the drug companies to sell Ritalin and amphetamines. >>
This is not true. Apparently, lack of knowledge is no barrier to having an opinion though. >>
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<< <i>ADHD is one of the so-called diseases that has been fabricated by the drug companies to sell Ritalin and amphetamines. Paying attention is not easy especially when you are not interested in the subject (school etc..). I am a pharmacist but I don't believe drugs are the answer to the problem. Discipline or maybe just a swat on the a$$ may be needed. Parents just don't want to be responsible for their kids so drugs are the easy way out. >>
Pharmacist or not I think you are seriously wrong with the "swat on the a$$" comment and that comment about "Parents just don't want to be responsible for their kids" is just an uneducated, generalized copout for something you do not understand!
Also, lets get something clear, ADD and ADHD are not an inability to concentrate, it is more along the lines of "getting easily distracted".
My son was diagnosed with ADD about 3 years ago. He literally struggled through middle school which required paying attention to the teachers lectures. Quite a departure from elementary school where one on one associations and trust can be built between teacher and student. He was prescribed Ritalin which was later changed to Concerta and has become a totally different student carrying a B average in his Junior year. He is proud of his accomplishments as are we.
My wife and I tried everything and I mean everything to help him out but nothing would work. Grounding, swats on the behind, privilege removal, nothing worked. We stopped spanking him at about the age 7 because it was very difficult emotionally on both him and us and simply had no affect on the situation. He had a problem that neither he nor we could understand.
Edited to add: In response to Michigan, no, ADD would not be a hindrance to coin collecting. Children with ADD can get intensly occupied with something that does grab their attention.
The name is LEE!
He said back in the old days, when we were kids, there was another name for someone with ADD - a stupid kid.
<< <i>I was at a comedy club the other night, and one of the performers was talking about ADD.
He said back in the old days, when we were kids, there was another name for someone with ADD - a stupid kid. >>
As Lee wrote, it's not really a concentration problem and it's definitely not an intelligence problem (my son has tested out at 130 on the IQ test the psychologist gave him). With mild-moderate ADHD without hyperactivity, it's primarily a problem of being easily distracted. It's caused by brain chemical imbalances and the condition can actually be seen in CAT scans of the brain. Dismissing it as a made up disease simply reveals the ignorance of the person doing the dismissing. However, now that you've all been educated, we won't have anymore of that, will we?
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<< <i>Maybe PCGS keeps switching coins on me - or maybe they've started inserting some sort of device that tracks the coin - or perhaps PCGS is replacing your coins with ones made out of uranium? >>
I see you're on to them too. What are we going to do?
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I will also agree though that having ADHD (or at least being diagnosed with it) is no hinderance to someone who is involed with something they are interested in.
<< <i>I won't deny that ADHD exists, but the problem is that if you are bored with something you are easily distracted from it and nowadays we are diagnosing every bored kid as having ADHD.
I will also agree though that having ADHD (or at least being diagnosed with it) is no hinderance to someone who is involed with something they are interested in. >>
Wow! So many physicians on this forum!
Not!
Diagnosing ADHD is not done in a doctors visit and it is not done wrecklessly, carelessly or casually! Sheesh!
The diagnosis of ADHD requires multiple unbiased individuals answering questions regarding the child through their observations. Mom and Dad receive the exact same questionnaire but are instructed to fill them out separately without regard for what the other will answer. An honest opinion is solicited and parental collusion is discouraged. This prevents or at least attempts to prevent the parents from influencing the outcome of the questionnaires.
The same thing occurs with the childs teachers and associated adults. They answer the questions with their best opinions based on their observations of the child in his daily activities.
Once all the questionnaires are completed, they are mailed to the doctor who then evaluates or has evaluated the answers on the questionnaires. A diagnosis is presented at a subsequent appointment. The decision on a treatment plan is as much decided by the child as it is by the parents and the doctor.
If ADHD is diagnosed, then an appropriate prescription is filled and the child begins taking his/her medication. After 3 to 4 months on the medication, the questionnaires are once again distributed to all the adults that originally participated. They are again evaulated to determine if the proper treatment is being administered and most importantly if the treatment is working. If not, then another medication is prescribed followed by another evaluation.
This is not an easy task for any parent to have to go through and I doubt that any parent out there would want their child diagnosed with ADHD.
It is by no means a diagnosis of a "bored" child.
The name is LEE!
That is probably one of the most ignorant statements I have read in a while. You should study up more on what you despense to people.
I can tell you with the help of Ritalin I have been able to obtain over 150+ Patents in the US and around the World for my ideas. All in the last 8 years. I started the medicine 9 years ago. I have the ability to focus which I never had before. I am 47 now, and life is wonderful.
The great poet, Robert Service that tells what life is like without help:
The Men That Don't Fit In
There's a race of men that don't fit in,
A race that can't stay still;
So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
And they roam the world at will.
They range the field and they rove the flood,
And they climb the mountain's crest;
Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,
And they don't know how to rest.
If they just went straight they might go far;
They are strong and brave and true;
But they're always tired of the things that are,
And they want the strange and new.
They say: "Could I find my proper groove,
What a deep mark I would make!"
So they chop and change, and each fresh move
Is only a fresh mistake.
And each forgets, as he strips and runs
With a brilliant, fitful pace,
It's the steady, quiet, plodding ones
Who win in the lifelong race.
And each forgets that his youth has fled,
Forgets that his prime is past,
Till he stands one day, with a hope that's dead,
In the glare of the truth at last.
He has failed, he has failed; he has missed his chance;
He has just done things by half.
Life's been a jolly good joke on him,
And now is the time to laugh.
Ha, ha! He is one of the Legion Lost;
He was never meant to win;
He's a rolling stone, and it's bred in the bone;
He's a man who won't fit in.
<< <i>ADHD is one of the so-called diseases that has been fabricated by the drug companies to sell Ritalin and amphetamines. Paying attention is not easy especially when you are not interested in the subject (school etc..). I am a pharmacist but I don't believe drugs are the answer to the problem. Discipline or maybe just a swat on the a$$ may be needed. Parents just don't want to be responsible for their kids so drugs are the easy way out.
That is probably one of the most ignorant statements I have read in a while. You should study up more on what you despense to people.
I can tell you with the help of Ritalin I have been able to obtain over 150+ Patents in the US and around the World for my ideas. All in the last 8 years. I started the medicine 9 years ago. I have the ability to focus which I never had before. I am 47 now, and life is wonderful.
The great poet, Robert Service that tells what life is like without help:
The Men That Don't Fit In
There's a race of men that don't fit in,
A race that can't stay still;
So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
And they roam the world at will.
They range the field and they rove the flood,
And they climb the mountain's crest;
Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,
And they don't know how to rest.
If they just went straight they might go far;
They are strong and brave and true;
But they're always tired of the things that are,
And they want the strange and new.
They say: "Could I find my proper groove,
What a deep mark I would make!"
So they chop and change, and each fresh move
Is only a fresh mistake.
And each forgets, as he strips and runs
With a brilliant, fitful pace,
It's the steady, quiet, plodding ones
Who win in the lifelong race.
And each forgets that his youth has fled,
Forgets that his prime is past,
Till he stands one day, with a hope that's dead,
In the glare of the truth at last.
He has failed, he has failed; he has missed his chance;
He has just done things by half.
Life's been a jolly good joke on him,
And now is the time to laugh.
Ha, ha! He is one of the Legion Lost;
He was never meant to win;
He's a rolling stone, and it's bred in the bone;
He's a man who won't fit in. >>
With all due respect to you, Robert Service, and Sam McGhee, the world would be
a much poorer place if we were all the same. The species would be in a great deal
more danger if we lived the same. We owe a great deal to those who have lis-
tened to their own drummer. Sir Isaac Newton is suspected to have been autistic
which is a kissing cousin of attention deficit disorder. Few people really do very
much to advance the species and those "running amok" do make a disproportion-
ate number of discoveries.
Robert Service may have nailed the major problem of those afflicted yet he hasn't
missed the human condition itself by a wide margin.
In the old days this was considered primarily a behavioral problem and treating it
as such was usually sufficiently successfull for the functioning of society. Granted
there were some individuals who would have benefited from drug intervention if
such existed but certainly it didn't include a large minority of children as are now
"benefiting" from such intervention.
Edit to add that I`m not intending to be a wise guy. But, the disability really shouldn`t be an excuse to not collecting if one that has it wants to do it. So why not.
The big misnomer here is the word hyperactivity.
Many, many people never have ever shown signs of a hyperactive condition.
I never have.
It is the ability to become linear in thought for longer periods of time that is the solution drugs like Ritalin bring to a suffer.
That linear period allows creativity to be 'captured and bottle' much better than with out it.
That's my feeling on it anyway