19th Century Krause 5th Edition... many prices are up.

coinpictures · February 19, 2007 9:21AM

I'm updating my database, adding Krause valuations to a bunch of my slabbed material that I had left empty, and decided to go back and compare some values I had taken from the 4th edition. Prices appear to be up on a large number of listings, especially in the UNC and BU columns.

Not sure if it's real appreciation, the poor performance of the U.S. dollar, or something else, but I'm glad I checked before I put any more material on the Bay...

German States and Swiss Cantons are showing some increases. Heck, even Belgian Congo pieces are up...

I'm going to add to this post as I find more increases of note.

British North Borneo pieces are up across the board, from 20-40% in UNC.

Some Frankfurt large silvers are way up, e.g., 2 Gulden 1848, KM 337 jumps from $240 to $400 in UNC.

No increases in Great Britain. (I take that back. Some isolated increases, e.g. 1821 6d goes from $200 to $300 in UNC)

Early Haiti shows big jumps.

Early Victorian India showing jumps in different areas, e.g., 1840 Rupee KM 458.1 jumps from $25 to $50 in UNC.

Irish proofs from 1805 showing jumps of 40-80% across the board.

Liberian patterns show some increases, but idiotically they've removed the listings for KM-Pn47 through Pn54.

Nova Scotia sees some rather large jumps, e.g., 1864 1 cent in MS60 increases from $100 to $150, and 1861 1/2 cent in MS63 increases from $165 to $300.

SONOFAB*TCH! They've removed all listings for Swiss Shooting Thalers. Damn it!

ajaan · February 19, 2007 9:45AM

Cool. I've gotta pick up the 5th edition. Any place sell them cheaper than Krause?

coinpictures · February 19, 2007 10:03AM

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Aethelred · February 19, 2007 11:02AM

I was happy to get my hands on this one!

lordmarcovan · February 19, 2007 7:00PM

<< Irish proofs from 1805 showing jumps of 40-80% across the board. >>

Not surprising. They were undervalued considerably.

Heck, I just got the 4th edition, and was disgusted by the errors and omissions.

Do be sure to post any errata on that thread.

PS-Is "NumisMaster" or whatever they call it on the market yet? 'Cause the opportunity to have all my Krause catalogs in PDF or some digital format is something I definitely would jump on- it would be so nice to have all that on my laptop or flash drive, instead of having to haul all these hefty books around. I would put up with some errors and omissions to have something so convenient.

coinpictures · February 19, 2007 9:42PM

<< PS-Is "NumisMaster" or whatever they call it on the market yet? 'Cause the opportunity to have all my Krause catalogs in PDF or some digital format is something I definitely would jump on- it would be so nice to have all that on my laptop or flash drive, instead of having to haul all these hefty books around. I would put up with some errors and omissions to have something so convenient. >>

Yes, but at $60 per year per volume, it's WAY more expensive than the paper versions of the catalogs (it's usually 2-3 years between editions of the paper catalogs for the older volumes, so you'll be paying $120-180 for the online editions of a $50 paper catalog). 17th and 18th century editions are not yet available.

Krause has their head up their a$$ with respect to the online pricing.

ajaan · February 19, 2007 9:50PM

Thanks for the link Dan. I just ordered one.

SYRACUSIAN · February 20, 2007 1:30AM

Can I have some values please?

Greece
1833 5 drs in unc/BU (no mm)
1833 20 drs gold unc
1851 5 drs unc
1876-A 5 drs gold unc (there's a silver version too)
1876-A 10 drs gold unc
1876-A 20 drs gold xf-unc
1876-A 50 drs gold xf-unc

Switzerland
1850-A, half, one, two and 5 francs in UNC/BU.

I'm asking a lot, I know, but the suspense is killing me.

These are very indicative prices for the entire volume as far as I am concerned.

lordmarcovan · February 20, 2007 1:42AM

<< Yes, but at $60 per year per volume, it's WAY more expensive than the paper versions of the catalogs (it's usually 2-3 years between editions of the paper catalogs for the older volumes, so you'll be paying $120-180 for the online editions of a $50 paper catalog). 17th and 18th century editions are not yet available.

Krause has their head up their a$$ with respect to the online pricing. >>

I see, and I agree. It is absurd that the digital version costs less than the paper one. But since it is potentially so convenient, I just bought 1-month subscriptions to the 19th and 20th century catalogs.

I like what I see, mostly, and they have links to report errors or suggest changes. I suggested they change the description of the critter on the reverse of the Irish Republic 3d from "rabbit" to the more correct "hare", for example.

I hope they get a reality check on the prices. I would be willing to pay AS much as paper catalogs, maybe, but MORE? Nope.

Come to think of it, paying the same price for the digital catalog as for the paper one doesn't make sense, either, since the digital one expires in a year, while the paper one lasts as long as the spine of the book holds up.

coinpictures · February 20, 2007 2:01AM

<< Come to think of it, paying the same price for the digital catalog as for the paper one doesn't make sense, either, since the digital one expires in a year, while the paper one lasts as long as the spine of the book holds up. >>

Bingo!

$39.95 per year for the first volume + $19.95 for each additional volume on the same subscription.

That's still pricey but doable. Basically $100 a year to subscribe to all of the major catalogs online. I could do that.

$60 per volume? Bite me hard.

cladking · February 20, 2007 3:59AM

Thanks for the info.

Did you look up much base metal stuff?

Doogy · February 20, 2007 4:45AM

<< 

SONOFAB*TCH! They've removed all listings for Swiss Shooting Thalers. Damn it! >>

just my luck too! the issue i've really become interested in lately, and they remove it?! sheesh!

19th Century Krause 5th Edition... many prices are up.

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