German ID help please

dcamp78

I picked up some older Pfennigs and I can't find these in my books.

1770 (silver) 1 Pfennig Obverse:


Reverse:

I'd like the reference number and silver content (if any)


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1786 2 Pfennig Obverse:


Reverse:

I couldn't find the crest on this coin in any of my books.


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1917 10 Pfennig Obverse:


Reverse:

I believe that this is one of the German States coins, but I don't have the reference
materials. Yes, I looked on the web.


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1919 10 Pfennig Obverse


Reverse:

Again, I believe that this is one of the German States coins, but I don't have the reference
materials. Yes, I looked on the web.

Thanks for any help...

lordmarcovan

#1: 1770 Mecklenburg-Schwerin 1-schilling, KM204, .375 silver/.0130 oz. 3rd Edition price $3 VG.

#2: 1786 Bavaria 2-pfennig, KM269, copper. 3rd edition price $1 VG. Yours isn't even that, particularly with the corrosion, but it ought to be worth fifty cents to a buck anyway, for the sheer fact that it's got a readable date in the 1700s.

#3: A very cool Kriegsgeld token from the city of state of Neuwied in the Rhineland-Palatinate.
Krause is of no help with tokens and I don't know much about kriegsgeld, but they are interesting and have some fascinating designs. I would cheerfully pay ten bucks for that piece you have there, knowing nothing about it except that I like it a lot. Of course you should hold on to it, as it might be worth more. (Maybe not, though- values generally are not too high, I don't think.) Kriegsgeld is World War I emergency money of some sort- I guess wartime shortages included circulating change? ("Krieg" = war, so kriegsgeld is "war money", or something like that).

#4: Another intesting token, this time from the state of Trier. Being dated 1919 and therefore postwar, it might fall under notgeld rather than kriegsgeld. I am venturing out of my knowledge, here. Many of the kriegsgeld and other tokens of this era are struck in iron. This piece and the third piece look like they may be, as well. Bet they stick to a magnet, yes? If so, they are in a pretty nice state of preservation for iron tokens. Iron rusts or turns very dark. Dark isn't bad, but rust is a plague. Yours are both relatively light in color and also free of rust, which is good.

dcamp78

<< <i>I would cheerfully pay ten bucks for that piece you have there, knowing nothing about it except that I like it a lot.

Many of the kriegsgeld and other tokens of this era are struck in iron. This piece and the third piece look like they may be, as well. Bet they stick to a magnet, yes? >>



Rob,

Thanks for the info. I'm going to keep these coins for a while and do some research to find out a bit more about them.

Yes, both coins are iron and stick to a magnet.

spoon

Yep, Rob's got 'em. The last two being kriegsgeld are the same thing as notgeld. Notgeld simply means emergency money, minted in times of economic distress, or in this case, war.

Trier is a really cool town. The structure on your piece of notgeld there is the old Roman city gate, still standing.

There are a couple of sellers of notgeld (both paper and token) online, I'll have to look up the links but they may give you an idea as to value. Typically they go for small bucks, but there are many scarce ones out there and you can only know which those are with a reference.