Cracking out all 8s and 9s -->
jmbkb4
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Interesting food for thought. In () are the previous grades. Multiples of same card are listed as one number, with the first card of the series.
PSA Order Status for Submission # 610636
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 60074375 1993 FINEST 98 DON MATTINGLY REFRACTOR 9 (9)
2 60074376 1993 FINEST 104 ROGER CLEMENS REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
2 60074377 1993 FINEST 104 ROGER CLEMENS REFRACTOR 10
3 60074378 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
3 60074379 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 10
3 60074380 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 10
4 60074381 1993 FINEST 112 KIRBY PUCKETT REFRACTOR 5 (9s) don't know what happened here/wrinkle
4 60074382 1993 FINEST 112 KIRBY PUCKETT REFRACTOR 10
5 60074383 1993 FINEST 109 PAT LISTACH REFRACTOR 9 (9)
6 60074384 1993 FINEST 194 JAY BELL REFRACTOR 9 (9)
7 60074385 1993 FINEST 102 FRANK THOMAS REFRACTOR 9 (9)
8 60074386 1993 FINEST 92 MARK McGWIRE REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
8 60074387 1993 FINEST 92 MARK McGWIRE REFRACTOR 10
9 60074388 1993 FINEST 77 TONY GWYNN REFRACTOR 10 (9s)
9 60074389 1993 FINEST 77 TONY GWYNN REFRACTOR 9
10 60074390 1993 FINEST 184 OREL HERSHISER REFRACTOR 9 (8)
11 60074391 1993 FINEST 119 CRAIG BIGGIO REFRACTOR 9 (9)
12 60074392 1993 FINEST 99 JOSE CANSECO REFRACTOR 9 (8)
13 60074393 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9 (all 8s -- collectors of the set know how huge this is)
13 60074394 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9
13 60074395 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9
14 60074396 1993 FINEST 6 BRETT BUTLER REFRACTOR 10 (9 --> a 1/1 PSA 10 -- see above)
15 60074397 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
15 60074398 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9
15 60074399 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9
Date Received: 02/09/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 02/14/2007
Date Shipped: 02/14/2007
PSA Order Status for Submission # 610636
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 60074375 1993 FINEST 98 DON MATTINGLY REFRACTOR 9 (9)
2 60074376 1993 FINEST 104 ROGER CLEMENS REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
2 60074377 1993 FINEST 104 ROGER CLEMENS REFRACTOR 10
3 60074378 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
3 60074379 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 10
3 60074380 1993 FINEST 79 SAMMY SOSA REFRACTOR 10
4 60074381 1993 FINEST 112 KIRBY PUCKETT REFRACTOR 5 (9s) don't know what happened here/wrinkle
4 60074382 1993 FINEST 112 KIRBY PUCKETT REFRACTOR 10
5 60074383 1993 FINEST 109 PAT LISTACH REFRACTOR 9 (9)
6 60074384 1993 FINEST 194 JAY BELL REFRACTOR 9 (9)
7 60074385 1993 FINEST 102 FRANK THOMAS REFRACTOR 9 (9)
8 60074386 1993 FINEST 92 MARK McGWIRE REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
8 60074387 1993 FINEST 92 MARK McGWIRE REFRACTOR 10
9 60074388 1993 FINEST 77 TONY GWYNN REFRACTOR 10 (9s)
9 60074389 1993 FINEST 77 TONY GWYNN REFRACTOR 9
10 60074390 1993 FINEST 184 OREL HERSHISER REFRACTOR 9 (8)
11 60074391 1993 FINEST 119 CRAIG BIGGIO REFRACTOR 9 (9)
12 60074392 1993 FINEST 99 JOSE CANSECO REFRACTOR 9 (8)
13 60074393 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9 (all 8s -- collectors of the set know how huge this is)
13 60074394 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9
13 60074395 1993 FINEST 143 HOWARD JOHNSON REFRACTOR 9
14 60074396 1993 FINEST 6 BRETT BUTLER REFRACTOR 10 (9 --> a 1/1 PSA 10 -- see above)
15 60074397 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9 (9s)
15 60074398 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9
15 60074399 1993 FINEST 105 RYNE SANDBERG REFRACTOR 9
Date Received: 02/09/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 02/14/2007
Date Shipped: 02/14/2007
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Comments
<< <i>Why do they have so much difficulty grading this set? I know grades can change with any set, but not usually at as high a percentage as has been reported here (in this thread and others) with '93 Finest Refractors. >>
There is a great deal of histrionics about this set and its grading, but I think that -- all in all -- grading is fairly consistent. When you have SUCH a high profile set and the number of big players on the registry willing to duke it out for PSA 10s, there is a huge amount of resubmitting to receive the PSA 10 grade.
There are very few (if any) modern registries with this kind of competition.
This is the explanation; I do not think it is a function of the cards themselves but a function of the intensity with which this set is collected.
By the way, my grades were by no means out of proportion to the bumps that ANY card could get on any day. Even by PSA guidelines, the difference between a 9 and 10 is fairly subjective.
<< <i>It is perfectly clear to me that any 93 Refractor 9 or 10 could also be an 8 depending on the grader. Kinda sad. >>
This comment is a little melodramatic, no?
there is a lot of chatter around here about resubmitting, but that's just about all it amounts to to me.
julen
RIP GURU
<< <i>Good results and another reason why there are only very specific things I will look for in a 10. You rarely can tell the difference between a 9 and a 10. I'm happy with 9s in my collection. 10s are for selling. >>
I hear you on this for sure, it's amazing the percentage jump to 10 that some moderns get. I might like a select few of them, but cannot justify the price jump.