Crossovers to PSA....how well have you done?

asphaltman76

Wondering how everyone has done.....and also do you keep the card in its current slab and ask for a minimum grade or crack it out? Obviously a high dollar card your probably safer to keep as is and hope it will cross over instead of cracking it out.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Wondering how everyone has done.....and also do you keep the card in its current slab and ask for a minimum grade or crack it out? Obviously a high dollar card your probably safer to keep as is and hope it will cross over instead of cracking it out. >>



I have a bunch of scans of some of my crackouts in the new slab with the old flip next to it. I would be happy to post them if you like.

Personally I like cracking cards out. Its really not as hard or "scarey" is its made out to be.

asphaltman76

Yeah that would be cool to see them. Most of mine tend to be scary to crack out....dealing with pre-war T206's and such...that are worth $500 or so slabbed the way they are....with my luck I figure I'll crack them and then PSA will determine they are trimmed and I have a $500 card with no slab. The only other grading company I'll buy from is SGC....and the only two cards I'd crossed, one came back the same..a SGC 40 to a PSA 3, and the other was a SGC 50 that went to a PSA 3...that was kind of dissapointing. Sometimes I wonder if PSA will look at a card slabbed by SGC and make the effort to never bump the card up a grade.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Yeah that would be cool to see them. Most of mine tend to be scary to crack out....dealing with pre-war T206's and such...that are worth $500 or so slabbed the way they are....with my luck I figure I'll crack them and then PSA will determine they are trimmed and I have a $500 card with no slab. The only other grading company I'll buy from is SGC....and the only two cards I'd crossed, one came back the same..a SGC 40 to a PSA 3, and the other was a SGC 50 that went to a PSA 3...that was kind of dissapointing. Sometimes I wonder if PSA will look at a card slabbed by SGC and make the effort to never bump the card up a grade. >>



I see what you are saying about your cards, as my crackouts are not nearly as "risky". Mine are just cheaper modern stuff.

I would think if a card is sent in another company's slab for crossover, it may be scrutinized more. Im probably wrong,but thats just my way of thinking

Ill get those scans up in a minute.

lawnmowerman

The 1990 Leaf Griffey was a bgs 9 too but I lost the flip

I have a bunch more succesful crossovers. I crossed over a bunch of bgs stuff and still do occassionally.

If your gonna crack, just examine the card closely to make sure its worth cracking.

asphaltman76

Cool....all of yours are GAI which is interesting. I'm very gunshy with GAI when it comes to pre-war...they tend to always overgrade and slab trimmed or altered cards. And amazing you get a GAI 8.5 Griffey come back a PSA 10....would have loved to have seen what PSA would have done with that card if you'd sent it in in the GAI slab.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Cool....all of yours are GAI which is interesting. I'm very gunshy with GAI when it comes to pre-war...they tend to always overgrade and slab trimmed or altered cards. >>



They were actually bgs graded cards I submitted before coming to psa.

I can see how it looks confusing being that the flips are silver like gai

RonBurgundy

Those are not GAI graded cards. Those are Beckett graded cards.


Ron

cohocorp

i am most comfortable cracking out from sgc and sending to psa raw. really have to watch the centering though. who wants to end up with a qualifier. as of recently, gai crackouts have been ok at best with normally losing that half grade they give. good rule of thumb to round down. i never sent a card in from another company without cracking it out, always raw. sgc and psa are close to equals from my experience. i prefer psa though because centering means something to them. i dont bother with any of the other companies, gem, pro, whatever. i naturally assume there are problems with any cards holdered by them. i value a raw card higher than a card in their slabs. i cant comment on bvg, bgs or a few others as i dont have experience with them.

asphaltman76

Yup, my bad..never had any association or owned any BGS cards...I just quickly looked at the silver labels. Here was my latest example. I picked up this T206 southern leaguer in a SGC 60. Thought about crossing, or trying to cross it over to a PSA 5...but in the end I just wasn't comfortable enough with the card..and no way I could have cracked it out. I paid $208 for it, ended up flipping it for $403 just the way it is a week later....(aided in padding my T206 low grade collection)

RonBurgundy

For what it's worth, I have had decent success with GAI graded cards. About half of those submitted that have had half grades have come back with a higher bump. I don't think it's all that hard to determine which cards with half grades are worthy of submission, whether they are SGC or GAI. I' ve had 6.5's come back as 7's, 7.5's come back as 8's, and a couple of 8.5's turn into 9's. I've had them go the other way as well.



Ron

colebear

I have not had very good luck sending slabbed cards from another company (BGS, GAI, SGC) to PSA. I never thought about cracking them out myself. I just recently sent in a Ripken 82 topps GAI 9.5 and Griffey 89 UD GAI 9.5 returned to me as not worthy of a gem. Maybe I should crack those and see what I get.

MikeyLikesIt

lawnmowerman,
So have the majority of yours come back as higher grades from PSA?

lawnmowerman

<< <i>lawnmowerman,
So have the majority of yours come back as higher grades from PSA? >>



Yes they have.

I had only one card come back with a lower grade. It was a bgs 9.5 and it came back a psa 9.

I re-sub'd it to psa again and it came back a psa 10

basestealer

<< <i>

<< <i>lawnmowerman,
So have the majority of yours come back as higher grades from PSA? >>



Yes they have.

I had only one card come back with a lower grade. It was a bgs 9.5 and it came back a psa 9.

I re-sub'd it to psa again and it came back a psa 10 >>


I think a good find is vintage in the old BGS holders before they went "BVG" and lowered their standards. I don't see too many around anymore but I bet they get grade up more often than not.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>
I think a good find is vintage in the old BGS holders before they went "BVG" and lowered their standards. I don't see too many around anymore but I bet they get grade up more often than not. >>

While Im not into vintage, this holds true for modern cards in older slabs as well. Of course there are some nice cards in the "newer" slabs but you really have to pick and choose.