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SCAMMER ON HERE, BEWARE OF GEORGE KRITKO!

be advised that thru various email accounts and thru the private messeging system on here, george kritko (eyelashx21108) attempted to scam me by hitting some buys i had on here. he copied pics from ended auctions on ebay from dave and adams and amunsoncubby and offered as his own. i didnt notice the cert # matching until after paypal pmt was sent. he uses the following email addresses:
skaboo2@yahoo.com
kritko@hotmail.com
eyelashx21108@gmail.com
toyashi@gmail.com
anaheimangels02wschamps@gmail.com
dsallen830@yahoo.com

the name ian palmer popped up in this mess also but i havent placed him yet. i am guess a co-conspirator. anyway, i am going to have some fun with this jerkoff. i have absolutely nothing better to do than to try to nail this scammer. although he has refunded me, i simply will not stop until satisfied. i just wanted to warn everyone on here to be extra careful with who you deal with.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭✭
    Nail his balls to the wall!!!
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
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    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    rat bastage!

    fargin A

    julen
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    RIP GURU
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Guy contacted me as well, Thanks for the heads up.
    image

  • BUST his chops!!!!!!!!!
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    alrighty, i was so pissed off, i couldnt wait until tomorrow to go to the police. i just got back. now, i didnt take all the emails and the scans of the cards with me yet. i will print out everything tonight and take with me tomorrow for the formal complaint. i already have private messeges from others on here who he tried to scam. theft by deception, attempted theft, wirefraud were all discussed. the investigator isnt in until tomorrow. but it appears that he will have some nice felonies stacked up by the time i am done with him. if anyone has any information on this guy like a phone number, address etc, i need it for the police. there has to be some of that info to register on here i assume. so even though he refunded me, he is still going to be charged. at this point my feeling is that since he tried to scam me for $545, it should cost him ten times that. so i simply will not stop until i am satisfied that it cost him that much at least. oh, he will have to answer the charges up here in new jersey. thats great! this is going to be fun!

    anybody with any info on this loser, please contact me.

    regards
    pat
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    The sub is still posting here today.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    i am still getting emails from members offering support etc. its nice to see members come together for a common goal. remember, i already got my money back, i am doing this to protect others.

    pat



  • Hmmm... all of his past posts were edited today.
  • mkg809mkg809 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    All of his posts were edited this morning.

    Wonder if he will respond to these claims.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    one of the other forum members here did a search and found out that the 2 guys live 2 towns apart from each other in georgia. there is a link with construction also it seems. thanks for the input and help guys.


  • You have got to be STUPID to come on this site and try to scam someone.
  • bluemarlinbluemarlin Posts: 627 ✭✭✭
    Wow this same guy tried to scam me yesterday,I posted a wanted 1952 Topps Thompson card
    this same guy pm me said he had one for sale I told him to send me the cert# before I sent payment,
    The guy sends me the cert# I verified it here and it comes up as a 1952 Topps Dick Groat card.I went to Ebay
    to check to see if their was any Dick Groats on auction and sure enough there was one with this cert#,
    I then write the guy back telling him he sent me a wrong cert # he then replied back with a # for a psa 6 Thompson
    Turns out this cert # was to a card Levi 707 sportscards owns!!! I wrote him saying I was interested in the Groat card
    also and would he be interested in selling that one also......He writes back stating make me an offer!!! I told him I know
    you don't have the Groat card because it is in fact on Ebay as we speak.Finally he sends one more email stating He was speechless
    and he's not gonna deny what he did he stated he was broke and no one would help him out.

    Jake
  • Degenerate. Hang 'em high.

    Arthur
  • ive never had him after me but i appreciate the heads up...all scammers should get a quick kick in the balls IMO..good for you and teaching him a lesson he wont soon forget!
    almo
    life's a garden baby, dig it!
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Hopefully this guy gets banned a little tighter than axtell.
    My baseball and MMA articles-
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    imagey
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>eyelashx21108
    New Member

    Posts: 17
    Joined: Dec 2006 >>

    I don't know this guy.

    So I did a search. He's only posted a few times - on sports talk and B/S/T.

    Not much of a record.

    coho

    I'll be interested to see what happens. Glad you didn't lose any money to him.

    mike
    Mike
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    i was forwarded a clear confession from george to a good member here. i think the police are going to love that one. this is getting interesting.

    i think the addage "is the juice worth the squeeze?" really comes into play alot in life.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    CU needs to toss him.

    I will be very surprised, if there are any criminal-charges
    maintained against him.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • He tried to sell me some 84 Donruss PSA 10's. He has my AOL screen name and everytime I would sign on to AOL, he would instantly IM me. He also sent me several emails asking if I was ready to buy yet.

    He was bugging me so bad I had to tell him to get lost...what a total POSimage

    Here is a copy of one of the emails he sent me:

    BTW His email address he used when he contacted me was: dsallen830@yahoo.com. When I received the email I wrote him back and asked him what his CU name was and he told me it was eyelashx21108

    Hello,
    I came across your post on CU Forum and emailing you in regards to your interest in '84 Donruss grade psa9/10. I came across many several PSA 10s from this set; as followed:
    #293 Allen Tremmell
    #183 Mike Schmidt
    #14 Bob Horner
    #107 Paul Molitor
    #116 Tom Seaver
    #188 Phil Niekro
    #352 Rod Carew
    #355 Joe Morgan
    #53 George Brett
    #54 Rickey Henderson
    #59 Ozzie Smith
    #274 Lou Piniella
    #60 Nolan Ryan
    and #104 Steve Sax

    I understand that you have picked alot of these up yet, so Im sure theres not many, if any at all I have to offer that you are still in need of. But If, in fact, you do come across any that you are in need of or interested in, let me know, as well as your offering price. Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing back from you. Thanks again! Kind Regards.

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  • Not sure what the police will be able to do, as you said he tried to get money off you. Unless he did, I imagine it would be a civil case.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Clear Skies,
    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    attempt to defraud for beginners. i will find out tomorrow when i go to the station. in the meantime, george emailed me the following...

    "I understand that, I cant believe what I got myself into, I am not this kind of person I have no record and I never thought of what this could do to me, I will refund all of your payments and send you extra for your troubles. Im so sorry and, I dont know I think its impossible for you to forgive me and you seem furious and trying to have any sympathy for me is probably the last thing you want to do, Im so sorry I promise you will have your money back plus extra for the trouble, My lord Im so sorry .."


    HERE WAS MY RESPONSE...

    george,
    do not send me extra money! i dont want your money. i see you acknowledge attempting to scam me on 3 occasions as well as committing wire fraud. i want you to come clean and give me the information i asked for from you, i.e. your phone number, address and legal name. if you come clean i may let it drop. plus, i want you to acknowledge in the (beware of george kritko thread) that you were trying to scam all these people. additionally i want you to publically apologize to EVERYONE in that thread. stand up and be a man. on the other hand, if you make me find out your name and info the hard way, i will not stop persuing it. i am very serious about that. i believe i already have your address and i know ian lives close to you. he is involved in this as well. finally, there are things in life called character and moral fiber which people cannot buy. they are some of the most important traits a person can possess. apparently they passed right on by you. i have an email already printed out from another member where you admitted trying to scam him as well. this was not a one time slip for you. i think you would keep trying to steal from people until you got caught. you are only remorseful now because you are caught. i wasted pretty much a full day and night on your sorry ass.
    pat

  • I suppose it's always easy to be remorseful after you've been caught. I couldn't give two craps about any apology or admission of guilt but then again I'm not involved directly. I have little sympathy for him and his partner.

    Arthur
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes people need a little help.



    Sometimes people need to be forgiven.



    And sometimes they need to go to jail.

    ////////////////////////////////////////////


    The solution lies somewhere therein.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Touche, storm. image

    Arthur
  • bluemarlinbluemarlin Posts: 627 ✭✭✭
    Hi guys, just thought I would post this guys response to me after I busted him on his scam.
    Jake


    eyelashx21108
    Date Posted: Feb/11/2007 12:51 PM
    Speechless; Caught me and Im not going to deny it.. Im so sorry and please forgive me- I have an aweful habit and I've been doing everything i could to raise money because Im broke and... noone has wanted to help me out so it lead to this, I blame noone but myself but Im so sorry, please forgive me, please.. Take care =(

  • Maybe prison is the best help anyone could ever provide him.
  • Just in case this helps anyone...

    IP address traced to:


    Mail Read Information
    To: <kritko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Hello
    Sent On: 02/12/07 (09:15PM)
    1st Opened: 02/13/07 (05:48AM)
    Tracking Summary
    Total: Opened 1 time by 1 reader
    Tracking Details (latest first)
    Opened: 02/13/07 (05:48AM)
    Read Duration (approx.): 00:00:08
    Location: (US) United States, GEORGIA, PEACHTREE CITY (Data by NetAcuity) Show Map
    Organization (ISP): COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS IP SERVICES / COMCAST / COMCAST (cable)
    Opened On: c-67-191-197-95.hsd1.ga.comcast.net (67.191.197.95)
    Language: en-us
    Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)
    Referrer: http://by120fd.bay120.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?msg=2C9


    Identification Report for 67.191.197.95
    Computer 67.191.197.95 has been found. It is almost certainly located in Atlanta, GA, USA as it has an exact match in the Visual IP Trace database.
  • eyeboneeyebone Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭
    Remember, there is a big difference between an eyelash and an eyebone. Good work cohocorp.

    Eyebone
    "I'm not saying I'm the best manager in the world, but I'm in the top one." Brian Clough
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    mark,
    i believe it may help.
    thanks
    pat
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>eyelashx21108
    Date Posted: Feb/11/2007 12:51 PM
    Speechless; Caught me and Im not going to deny it.. Im so sorry and please forgive me- I have an aweful habit and I've been doing everything i could to raise money because Im broke and... noone has wanted to help me out so it lead to this, I blame noone but myself but Im so sorry, please forgive me, please.. Take care =( >>



    You aren't sincerely sorry when you make excuses in an apology. There are people out there in much more dire straights yet do not resort to scamming.

    He's a flaming POS and deserves whatever he gets.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Did this guy actually get anyone's money?

    if not, the police aren't going to waste their time with it....but by posting it here you have done a great service to the members of the board.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    goose--

    i am sure he ended up with some $. i had an email from someone who dealt with him on the beckett boards who he scammed. he didnt get refunded.

    the police in my town are fair but they are by the book. if you commit a crime, they will persue it. the investigator is very smart and i have total faith that he will come up with something to charge him with. we are a small town here but we stick together and do what is right.

    pat
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    btw, my refund is actually pending right now. so i didnt get my money back yet. i just noticed that.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    here is an email i received this morning from eyelashx21108...

    COHOCORP:
    Hi.. Wow do we have a situation here. Im just a bit pissed off, this has happened to me twice in the past.. people using me as their damn middle man. Okay.. I was contacted from someone - after all of this im guessing it was either a member with a bad rep or not a member at all. He requested that I would message a few people because he 'couldn't use his own name'.. I was a bit skeptical but I didn't really mind until he mentioned the trading matter. I told him I don't do that and if he wanted to make trades that he could use his own name and contact them himself because I always find myself to get wrapped up in some bs.. and what do ya know. Alright so this John guy emails me back and mentions that he is a repeat customer and has made several transactions in the past, and convinced me to favor him because he told me it would boost my rep on the trading forum. This someone grabbed my attention because hey Im new, only made about 3 or 4 completed trades on the site and this would settle all the trust issues knowing that Im a good person to deal with.. In the end it all boiled down to my follower-self telling him I would. He wrote me back telling me what he wanted me to write and I was thinking i really do not want to get caught up in this, so I got your email and just gave that to him and said to contact you through email - and if you can recall, I sent you a PM yesterday around afternoon with a brief message saying check your email, I figured that you would catch onto the rest if you found an unread message in your inbox. I figured he hadn't emailed you back after you messaged me back stating just that.. In the meantime I received another email from this John character and he said he preferred not doing it through email because on the site atleast people would see all of your posts and past trades and look at you with more legitimacy than some random person through email so Im like fine whatever and he sent me what he wanted to be sent, and from there I forwarded everything to you.
    COHOCORP - At this point im just frustrated and somewhat confused, but at the same time I have the picture in my head of whats going on. Im mad.. just pissed off about this its happened to me a couple times in the past, people using me as their middle man.. someone doing this to me is the ultimate "F-U", people have no respect and im tired of it. Im 15 years old and a sophomore in high school.. I don't need this crap in my life, I signed up on this board late last year and I made a few trades just selling off my collection, I had some cards like GUs as well as coins.. I dont have time for the hobby anymore. By the way, I am not directing any of this towards you, just the f-er who did this. I honestly don't know what to do because now I look like the bad guy and.. IDK! I received a threatening message from you on the collectors forum and the first instant I read it I knew what was up and I don't handle these situations well.. Im 15 years old.. and being accused of scam for over 100 dollars, that I honestly am not easily capable of sending back becuase one.. I only see that kind of money when my birthday comes around and 2.. I cant send back money I never received. COHOCORP i appologize for this, can you please email me back because Im just scared and now this looks horrible on my part, being that it was done through my name on the boards makes it all worse. Reply through email because Im having trouble logging on the site now... get back to me please. Thanks a bunch im sorry for this mess..
    Sincerely,
    Ricky
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    my thoughts are that nobody can be that dumb as to allow someone access to their account, especially when that person says they have a questionable past. this story simply does not add up. apparently there are a number of parties involved with this scam. i emailed him back i wanted his information and all information about this "phantom" guy. i am sure he will not send me anything. i really cant rationalize as to why people would conspire to defraud so poorly that they are assured to be caught.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    I'm going to assume that you and this guy live in different states?

    Whether or not your police are fair and by the book is irrelevant. They are not going to pursue anything against someone in another state or jurisdiction if it is "small potatoes". Also, the question of Venue would come into play too....you might have to make a complaint out with HIS police because that is where you sent the money.

    What I'd suggest is that you contact his local law enforcement agency and file a complaint with them. Suggest the same to anyone else that has actually been "scammed". I honestly don't see how your police can do a thing for you other than solely out of courtesy unless you both reside in the same city.

    What I'm saying is that if I'm at work in my town here in Ohio and someone comes on station stating they were ripped off by an ebay seller in California for several hundred dollars....there's not a thing I can do other than to point them to an agency in California. Now if someone from California calls me and says someone in my city screwed them on ebay and emails/faxes documentation.....I will go and knock on some doors and try and help any way that I can, time willing.

    How did you pay? Check? Paypal? Credit Card? There are various ways to to strike back against such a person.

    Also, please do not take my posts the wrong way...I'm not trying to stick up for the guy but I think that sometimes people are a little misinformed on what the police can actually do in situations.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I call BS.

    If he was being honest, he would give you this other person's name.

    Make him learn a lesson image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Im 15 years old and a sophomore in high school

    Playing hookie today. LOL
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    goose-

    i paid via paypal
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    PM sent to you.....

    George Kritko or whomever you are.....you have the option at this point of making things very easy and refunding Coho's money.

    You should thank God that you didn't screw me over but you should also realize that I am going to try and help Coho out here at the same time.....

    image


  • Can't remember the big guy's name... send him to his house. LOL
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    this is the name of another involved in the scam apparently. this is eyelashx21108



    soxferlyph206 ---another id he used and got banned from thebenchtrading.com


    Ricky Booska
    102 High Street #2
    Vernon, CT 06066

    i just got his dad's email address

    edited-- i just got his mom's email address also. NICE---------------



  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...sometimes people are a little misinformed on what the police can actually do in situations. "

    /////////////////////////////////////

    Yup.

    The police in the victim's town can take a report - if they will -
    and forward the info to the Atlanta/Peachtree City police. That
    may/may not generate a police-visit to the perp's house.

    If the bad guy is a juvie, the police OFTEN do not want to waste
    their time on non-violent crimes. There is a 50/50 chance that
    the offender is an adult.

    Apparently, CU has cut-off his entry to the forums. If not, they
    need to do so right away. CU might/might not be willing to
    give the guy's IP-info to the police in the towns of the victims.

    A personal visit by a victim to the PD in the town of the perp
    is always the most efficient way to get action. A lawyer can
    be hired to make such a visit on behalf of said victim.

    If the person who contacted COHO was acting in good faith,
    he would have provided FULL contact info in his nonsense
    email.

    A report to PayPal is appropriate, but it will not generate a
    refund because ANY money sent has already been withdrawn.
    PP will shut the offending account down, to prevent its further
    use in criminal activity.

    It appears that the perp may have still been playing the scam
    on February 12. It is possible that he ceased eating new victims
    on February 11.

    It may be time for CU to take a look at BST and decide if BST
    is really a good idea, when no safeguards at all are in place.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    storm- points taken.

    i think a member should have to be 18 years old to join. the bst forums can be a valuable tool for the site. naturally it is buyers beware. i think cu already shut him out. they acted responsible in my opinion. there is no way they can hold hands for transactions on the bst. without a doubt, it is my own fault for falling for the scam. i didnt cross check the cert numbers before paying. i always pay immediately without hesitation when i gets scans and confirm the deal. it has always been important to me to be a lightning pay. i should have researched. either way, i am all for the bst boards and do not hold cu responsible at all. if we keep taking things away from this site, it will whither away to nothing. it is a good tool still.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "i think a member should have to be 18 years old to join."

    ///////////////////////////////

    I think CU says you are supposed to be 18.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    I would not let this go even if he paid. Pursue it as far as you can go. You'll be doing for us and all folks he ripped off in the past.


  • << <i>storm- points taken.

    i think a member should have to be 18 years old to join. the bst forums can be a valuable tool for the site. naturally it is buyers beware. i think cu already shut him out. they acted responsible in my opinion. there is no way they can hold hands for transactions on the bst. without a doubt, it is my own fault for falling for the scam. i didnt cross check the cert numbers before paying. i always pay immediately without hesitation when i gets scans and confirm the deal. it has always been important to me to be a lightning pay. i should have researched. either way, i am all for the bst boards and do not hold cu responsible at all. if we keep taking things away from this site, it will whither away to nothing. it is a good tool still. >>


    Yes, because you can't enter into a contract with a minor, which means any sale to or from a minor is legally invalid--should he decide to "change his mind".
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