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Grading these cards I need your hlep!

FredcharlesFredcharles Posts: 55
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Hi,

I need help with these cards. What you think they may grade out at and value.


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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/GamePicutes07186.jpg

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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/GamePicutes07187.jpg

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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/GamePicutes07191.jpg

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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/GamePicutes07189.jpg





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  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>Hi,

    I need help with these cards. What you think they may grade out at and value.


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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Nobody reputable will grade Star cards, and for the rest I think save the grading fees. Just MHO, the autos don't look all that good.

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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    i'll guess that the autos are legit.. i think jimq is right though, PSA wont grade Star cards, but i bet you could get the autograph in a PSA/DNA slab (if authentic)..
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  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edumacate me - why won't PSA grade Star?

    Geordie

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  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>i'll guess that the autos are legit.. i think jimq is right though, PSA wont grade Star cards, but i bet you could get the autograph in a PSA/DNA slab (if authentic).. >>




    autos are fake.
  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭
    Unless those were signed 17 years ago and Jordan changed his autograph shortly thereafter, I have to agree with the others that all of those autographs are terrible fakes. Jordan doesn't loop the J in his last name, and there are lots of straight & curvy lines (no distinguishable letters) in an authentic autograph, rather than the jagged appearance on these cards.

    As for the grades of the cards--I think all 4 are somewhere between 6-8. The scans are hard to tell for sure, as there is residue on the Jordan RC that could be the card or the sleeve. The second picture is too blurry. However, if the autos are fake, well at least with the '86 Fleer, the $400 card is ruined.

    Here's an authentic Jordan
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>edumacate me - why won't PSA grade Star?

    Geordie >>



    Star cards were rumored to be massively re-printed, IIRC Beckett won't grade them either.
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  • FredcharlesFredcharles Posts: 55
    Here are better scans of the cards. I do have letters that came with the cards from the Jordan INC about him
    signing the cards dated 1992 for a giveaway promotion. Should I stilll have them sent to PSA.

    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/MJFleerRC.jpg

    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/MJCourtKing.jpg

    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/MJFLeer88.jpg


    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s171/Fredcharles1985/Sport Cards/Mj87-88Flee.jpg

    update Hope this works
  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭


    << <i>Unless those were signed 17 years ago and Jordan changed his autograph shortly thereafter, I have to agree with the others that all of those autographs are terrible fakes. Jordan doesn't loop the J in his last name, and there are lots of straight & curvy lines (no distinguishable letters) in an authentic autograph, rather than the jagged appearance on these cards.

    As for the grades of the cards--I think all 4 are somewhere between 6-8. The scans are hard to tell for sure, as there is residue on the Jordan RC that could be the card or the sleeve. The second picture is too blurry. However, if the autos are fake, well at least with the '86 Fleer, the $400 card is ruined.

    Here's an authentic Jordan
    image >>



    Jordan's auto used to look a lot more like Fred's scans and not like the one above. I got an auto from Mike in 1990 and it looked identical to Fred's.

    Ast to why many wont grade Star, there are various reasons. The first is that there were tons of fakes made from the actual printing presses years after the original issue. There were tons of other fakes made as well by others not using the original presses. There was a guy that went to GAI that they said could spot the differences from the originals and from the reprints made from the same presses. I know that GAI was grading them and I don't know if they still are. Another reason that Star won't be graded is that the vast majority came in sheets and the dealers actaully had to cut them theirselves.

    The reasons above I have heard various times in several different forums, so if anyone has any better info or any refutes, please let us all know.
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