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My Newest Pickup and Im very happy!

RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980
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560.00 Delievered for this item, included overnight shipping with 1000.00 insurance. Only downside the powerseller only takes check/M.O's.

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Edit: BTW looks good for psa/bgs... Just gotta decide which company I want to holder it.

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    That is a pretty card.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>That is a pretty card. >>




    Thank you, Hopefully it pulls off a gem grade from bgs/psa.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Any relationship to??

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  • kylehess10kylehess10 Posts: 351


    << <i>Any relationship to??

    image >>



    That's what I was about to say. DAMN SHE'S HOT!
    My Game Used Memorabilia Collection
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    GEEEZ!
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>

    << <i>Any relationship to??

    image >>



    That's what I was about to say. DAMN SHE'S HOT! >>




    No relation and no she isn't hot...

    image

  • mkg809mkg809 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭
    Since I don't collect anything past the 80s, why is this card so expensive?
    Are there only a few made?
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    BGS it....
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    if you don't mind someone askling what are your long term plans for these expensive modern cards? hope one of these young no names becomes the next a-rod or pujols and dump it for 10k knowing that you are going to suffer on 90% of these purchases are going to end up losing money.

    i am not being critical of your purchase because i have made some questionable purchases in my life that were not the most wise. it just seems that you can pick up a lot 1960's psa 10's 1/1's for less than this raw card of a player who has never played in a major league game.

    if it this the thrill of the gamble like buying a penny stock and seeing it hit, i can appreciate that. i see by your prior posts you are a college student and what you may consider vintage is like yesterday to many of us. i can guarantee that almost everyone on this board at some time or other was looking to cash in on rookie cards of the next superstar only to see his career fizzle.

    good luck--maybe i'll learn something about collecting.
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>if you don't mind someone askling what are your long term plans for these expensive modern cards? hope one of these young no names becomes the next a-rod or pujols and dump it for 10k knowing that you are going to suffer on 90% of these purchases are going to end up losing money.

    >>




    yes, they are actually not no names... People that are fans of their ball clubs know who they are... Casual fans might not know their names now, but those are the same fans that went, wow i wish i wouldve bought miguel cabrera autos or pujols autos.
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    WHOA! i just asked a question--not to make you so defensive of your purchases.

    the money people would have dumped chasing a bunch of $500+ raw cards to find the next pujols would be astonomical compared to what you would have gotten back. the most expensive card on ebay of pujols (players of his offensive talent are not coming out the wood work each year) is $7K with no bids. it doesn't take long blowing money on pittsburgh pirates and tampa bay devil ray players to get up to $7000.

    i am all for you buying what you want, it keeps the economy going. since i don't collect modern we will never but heads with your deep pockets bidding on cards. the fact is that this guy is UNPROVEN. his next hit in the majors will be his first hit.

    lastly why would spend that much money on an ungraded card? it may look like a gem mint but the slightest flaw and you are out a lot of money.

    i wish you well on your speculation.




  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>WHOA! i just asked a question--not to make you so defensive of your purchases.

    the money people would have dumped chasing a bunch of $500+ raw cards to find the next pujols would be astonomical compared to what you would have gotten back. the most expensive card on ebay of pujols (players of his offensive talent are not coming out the wood work each year) is $7K with no bids. it doesn't take long blowing money on pittsburgh pirates and tampa bay devil ray players to get up to $7000.

    i am all for you buying what you want, it keeps the economy going. since i don't collect modern we will never but heads with your deep pockets bidding on cards. the fact is that this guy is UNPROVEN. his next hit in the majors will be his first hit.

    lastly why would spend that much money on an ungraded card? it may look like a gem mint but the slightest flaw and you are out a lot of money.

    i wish you well on your speculation. >>




    out a lot of money? not really.. Card goes for more than I paid raw... Trust me I don't buy blind, I built my bankroll OBV in being decent at what I buy.. Its not like I don't research the cards I buy, same as vintage guys researching the gem they are trying to lock in for their sets/collections. As for as no names, just because you a uninformed person hasn't heard of them doesn't mean most havent. He was the #3 pick and most people have heard/know of him. He is rated the #16 best prospect according to many established companies that are paid by Major League Teams to research stuff like that.
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    I purchase modern cards, all football, but as so many others are politely saying, what is to happen when some of these high priced players don't turn out to be the next Willie Mays, or Mike Schmidt? They are already priced at the point to where if they do even have an excellent playing career(note well worth their draft pick status or hype before even playing) but not a superb HOF career, then their cards will most certainly plummet to reflect this, possibly so even if they do have HOF careers due to the price point they are at. It's quite simple, look at what a proven HOF rookie card is priced at in comparison to what your paying. How are you going to feel about the hobby when you lose tens of thousands or more on these cards? It's certainly only in the collective of card collectors best interest to keep young blood in this hobby and warn of past mistakes we have made(just look at the 89 UD Griffey Jr. card for an example.) Even if you have a player the caliber of Pujols, I have a hard time believing his multiple thousand dollar cards will ever outperform a Hank Aaron rookie or early Mickey Mantle card or the like over a long period of time.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>out a lot of money? not really.. Card goes for more than I paid raw... Trust me I don't buy blind, I built my bankroll OBV in being decent at what I buy.. Its not like I don't research the cards I buy, same as vintage guys researching the gem they are trying to lock in for their sets/collections. As for as no names, just because you a uninformed person hasn't heard of them doesn't mean most havent. He was the #3 pick and most people have heard/know of him. He is rated the #16 best prospect according to many established companies that are paid by Major League Teams to research stuff like that. >>



    I'm not doubting that you are making money the way you are doing things but that's not real prospecting.

    You get the 10th round pick who isn't mentioned in any established rankings.

    You pay a fraction of the cost, your exposure is significantly less, and your pop will be significantly higher % wise.

    / $0.02
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    So beacuse he was drafted third his raw card is worth $560? I am sure that since you want to become a lawyer and a sports agent that no one can tell you anything but since the draft started two players drafted third overall have had HOF careers. (Yount and Molitor). There are players like Matt Williams, Lonnie Smith, Hubie Brooks and Troy Glaus who did OK, and then you have had some real NO NAMES. Younts Rookie card books in PSA 9 for $385 and Molitors RC in PSA 9 is $225. So for a few$$$ more than what you blew on some raw Devil Ray card of a guy who has played in the Majors someone could have have both mint RC of the best two players to be drafted third.

    If this Longoria comes close to Molitor or Yount you could consider yourself very lucky.

    For people that realize that there were baseball cards in the 20th century as well take a trip down memory lane with some of these names:

    History of the Major League Draft

  • blindflyerblindflyer Posts: 758
    For crying out loud, give RandyMoss84 a break ....

    isn't it obvious?

    He pays $500 ... hopes Longoria cracks the majors come April, has a hot start --- then RandyMoss84 sells him back on ebay for 3x what he paid.

    It is prospecting --- identifying cards that show potential room for major growth. We're 5 days before pitchers/catchers report to Spring Training. Timing is probably perfect for purchases like these.

    I don't collect any modern, am 30 yrs old, and was never and will never be part of the game RandyMoss84 is playing.... But, as an entrepreneur, I tip my hat to him ...

    You guys are coming down on him pretty hard. He came on the board to share a purchase he's happy about. he tells you the guy he bought has great potential for a good career --- it doesn't mean that guy needs to be the next Pujols in order for RandyMoss84 to make a nice chunk of change on a resell come April or May (or next September or whenever).

    -Tom
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>So beacuse he was drafted third his raw card is worth $560? I am sure that since you want to become a lawyer and a sports agent that no one can tell you anything but since the draft started two players drafted third overall have had HOF careers. (Yount and Molitor). There are players like Matt Williams, Lonnie Smith, Hubie Brooks and Troy Glaus who did OK, and then you have had some real NO NAMES. Younts Rookie card books in PSA 9 for $385 and Molitors RC in PSA 9 is $225. So for a few$$$ more than what you blew on some raw Devil Ray card of a guy who has played in the Majors someone could have have both mint RC of the best two players to be drafted third.

    If this Longoria comes close to Molitor or Yount you could consider yourself very lucky.

    For people that realize that there were baseball cards in the 20th century as well take a trip down memory lane with some of these names:

    History of the Major League Draft >>




    You forget those cards were produced in the THOUSANDS, didn't feature autographs, and also were not attractive, the game has changed. Just to let you know, I do not like vintage, it just doesn't do it for me, yet I don't go around the boards hating on people dropping 500 for a psa 8 card, I say congrats and nice addition, if you don't have anything nice to say and just want to tell me im a fool for spending my money this way, just pass, its getting old, I can spend the money that I've earned and made however I want, if I want to buy a bum for 600 bucks, by all means I should be able to. When I resale the card I will post the transaction and one of us will be either right or wrong.
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>For crying out loud, give RandyMoss84 a break ....

    isn't it obvious?

    He pays $500 ... hopes Longoria cracks the majors come April, has a hot start --- then RandyMoss84 sells him back on ebay for 3x what he paid.

    It is prospecting --- identifying cards that show potential room for major growth. We're 5 days before pitchers/catchers report to Spring Training. Timing is probably perfect for purchases like these.

    I don't collect any modern, am 30 yrs old, and was never and will never be part of the game RandyMoss84 is playing.... But, as an entrepreneur, I tip my hat to him ...

    You guys are coming down on him pretty hard. He came on the board to share a purchase he's happy about. he tells you the guy he bought has great potential for a good career --- it doesn't mean that guy needs to be the next Pujols in order for RandyMoss84 to make a nice chunk of change on a resell come April or May (or next September or whenever).

    -Tom >>




    Thanks Tom,


    I never said this guy would be even in the same breath as some of the HOF'ers that people here buy for less, however there is money to be made if done right, I hope to be able to pull it off just perfect =)
  • blindflyerblindflyer Posts: 758
    Moss84 --- I'm with you, brother!

    I'm sure you buy/sale prospects all day long. Buy 50 of them .. win some, loss some ---- it's NOT how great of career these players have --- it's how well you time when you buy and sell.

    The money is made by your timing more than anything else.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>Moss84 --- I'm with you, brother!

    I'm sure you buy/sale prospects all day long. Buy 50 of them .. win some, loss some ---- it's NOT how great of career these players have --- it's how well you time when you buy and sell.

    The money is made by your timing more than anything else.

    -t >>




    I won't lie i lost on two guys big last year..

    P.J. Phillips- Awful angels prospect

    Cody Allen- I think i mightve been reaching with him, had 12 gold refs.. Made back about 50% what I paid luckily it wasn't much..


    But then I struck gold with Hughes/Bailey/Gio Gonzalez and matt kemp.


    And if Ryan Braun lives up again this year Ill unload him shortly.
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm sure you buy/sale prospects all day long. Buy 50 of them .. win some, loss some ---- it's NOT how great of career these players have --- it's how well you time when you buy and sell. >>



    now that's what card collecting is all about....pathetic
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm sure you buy/sale prospects all day long. Buy 50 of them .. win some, loss some ---- it's NOT how great of career these players have --- it's how well you time when you buy and sell. >>



    now that's what card collecting is all about....pathetic >>




    In terms of prospecting it basically is...


    I also have side player collections where i spend gross amounts on base cards to obtain 100% completion, I would never sell any of those guys cards, and likely nobody would ever want them =)
  • blindflyerblindflyer Posts: 758


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm sure you buy/sale prospects all day long. Buy 50 of them .. win some, loss some ---- it's NOT how great of career these players have --- it's how well you time when you buy and sell. >>



    now that's what card collecting is all about....pathetic >>



    Are you the definitive source of how a person is supposed to collect?

    For crying out loud, step off of your self-righteous high-horse and think about what you just said...

    This hobby is big enough for a million different interpretations of what "it is about" --- to each his own. There is no right or wrong way to collect.

    In my opinion, the bigger the variety of demand and interest in our hobby, the better. That's just my opinion --- but at the end of the day who is anyone to judge another's preferred method of "collecting" ... RandyMoss84 is basically a sports-card day-trader -- I LOVE IT!

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
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  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    blindflyer you were saying in my opinion, well, that was the exact same thing I was expressing so chill out. I do think your opinion is infinitely more times dangerous, especially to an obviously young collector, as we all know that at some point the speculating or flipping of these cards will at some point result in either the loss of a potential long-term collector or serious loss of investment, or both.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


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  • blindflyerblindflyer Posts: 758


    << <i>blindflyer you were saying in my opinion, well, that was the exact same thing I was expressing so chill out. I do think your opinion is infinitely more times dangerous, especially to an obviously young collector, as we all know that at some point the speculating or flipping of these cards will at some point result in either the loss of a potential long-term collector or serious loss of investment, or both. >>



    Fair enough ...

    I'm personally not into "sports card day trading" --- I prefer the quiet joy in the long term buliding of vintage sets. I agree overall that day-trading is dangerous and some percentage (probably a high one) will get burned in the long run -- possibly resulting in them leaving the hobby.

    I just get frustrated when a friendly guy comes on the board, shares his purchase and his "method" of the hobby and gets needlessly slammed by others for what he does.

    We all have opinions --- and none of them are any better than another. To each his own.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
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