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A couple PCGS BBed coins

Didn't see them coming.

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  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭
    Why did they BB the sixpence?
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why did they BB the sixpence? >>


    'Cleaned'

    The 3d for 'altered surfaces'. Geez! the coin is 340 years old!

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  • Sixpence doesn't look cleaned to me, has it been dipped?

    As for the 3d piece, well 340 years might do something to a surface.

    What now? Send them across the street?

    Dr J
  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll have to look at the 6d more carefully when I get it back. I haven't seen the coin in over 2 months.

    I'm really annoyed at the Charles 3d. Altered surfaces? How?

    Don't think they'll go across the street.

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  • how did you get images of the body bagged coins?

    I paid for the service and was never issued the images for the ones that did not grade, and nobody returned my email inquiry.

  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Looking at the second image, the obverse and parts of the reverse fields of the 6d show some porosity, which I'm sure goes undetected in such a small coin without the use of a strong loupe.

    Still, both are very pretty coins, regardless of the BB.
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obviously we do not have the coins in hand but I have seen PCGS Morgans and Walkers that were NOT bagged and a lot worse. They would probably BB the 3d if it was left in its original state so it's a Devil and Deep Blue Sea proposition....
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would need to see them in hand first. The Charles II 3d has haymarking which is to be expected for this issue

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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    I like the Charles II and based on that photo I see no problem with it.image
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would need to see them in hand first. The Charles II 3d has haymarking which is to be expected for this issue >>



    OK, now you need to explain "haymarking". That is a new term for me.
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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    That's a darn nice 3d! (nice 6d, too)

    I'd be happy to own it as it appears near perfect. But if we must find problems, what is the lack of toning below the shield (and possibly other areas)?
  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...The 3d for 'altered surfaces'. Geez! the coin is 340 years old! >>

    I don't think I'd worry much about the BB. Cool coin! - Preussen
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    haymarking is fairly common on British milled coins from the reign of Charles II through George I. I have read different accounts for it. I am going to seeif I can dig up an old thread on this...

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  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭✭
    Those are 2 of the best looking body bags I have seen in awhile.
  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103


    << <i>Those are 2 of the best looking body bags I have seen in awhile. >>



    Took the words right out of my mouth. Even though they got BB'd, I'd pay full price with no problems.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One wonders if PCGS bagged Charlie for the haymarking, out of ignorance of what it was?

    Not casting aspersions, here, but one wonders...

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They should know better... seriously the graders there should know all about haymarking

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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found an interesting one page article from the Numismatist describing haymarking as "fine fissures on the surface caused by tossing a hot coin on hay to cool".

    I learn something new everyday.


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  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103


    << <i>I found an interesting one page article from the Numismatist describing haymarking as "fine fissures on the surface caused by tossing a hot coin on hay to cool".

    I learn something new everyday.


    Cathy >>



    Same here! Never knew anything about haymarking. Interesting topic.
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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I found an interesting one page article from the Numismatist describing haymarking as "fine fissures on the surface caused by tossing a hot coin on hay to cool".

    I learn something new everyday.


    Cathy >>



    They must've had a busy fire department.......

    Never knew this bit of info - thanks, Cathy!

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I found an interesting one page article from the Numismatist describing haymarking as "fine fissures on the surface caused by tossing a hot coin on hay to cool".

    I learn something new everyday.


    Cathy >>




    Those 'fine fissures' (usually blackened specks or streaks) are actually tin impurities in the flan(s).
  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    I agree with the 6d. It's been scrubbed with baking soda.

    I don't know what the problem was with the 3d. Very nice coin.
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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Charlie is about to have a new daddy. image
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