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Does this look like PA Outdoorsman

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  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    not sure if it is paoutdoorsman as it is not as large of a listing but the stuff is bad for sure
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    ff,
    wow!, i almost posted this exact same thing.... looks very familiar. keep an eye to see what other stuff starts popping up from the seller.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    hey favrefan,

    you own any "brett bricks"?

    julen
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    RIP GURU
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    whats the story with paoutdoorsman? from my search it seems that he is a resealer of old packs. what a loser. any thing else about him?
    my ebay listings
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    If you are going to sell a wax box, would you not at least show some scans of the packs themselves??
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Was this account opened during on or about
    the time-period that other known accounts
    were opened?

    Is the current town close to him/his "grandmother?"
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    It looks shady and its in PA. again...always a good story like the 1987 fleer box found in an antique place....Who takes stuff like that there?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep - it's him. His "pics" always look the same.
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    That sucks. A buddy of mine was pumped to get the 1972 packs of football. I will keep quiet for now. He got the packs today. Searched for sure
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He scams in various ways. Sometimes he don't ship, Oftentimes he ships searched packs, and sometimes he'll ship something "genuine" so as to get some good glowing feedback comments in order to suck in others. Hopefully your buddy got something genuine.

    Overall...a very clever way to scam.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>whats the story with paoutdoorsman? from my search it seems that he is a resealer of old packs. what a loser. any thing else about him? >>




    paoutdoorsman2004

    His actual former ebay name was paoutdoorsman2004. This was his ebay account - he had around 100 auctions going at the time, many of them for over a K, some over 10K, before he got quckly narued after the auctions ended. He would have received many more negs on his feedback history if the account wouldn't have been closed. He seems to do things on a smaller scale after that, like with these auctions.


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure looks like paoutdoorsman and the verbiage in his listings is very familiar, too. He's resurfaced under several IDs since that original infamous ID, and as I recall he's usually followed the same pattern as this new guy: build up a few feedbacks for inexpensive items, start off with a few vintage packs, nothing major, and gradually amp it up till he's unloading the big ticket crap, er, I mean product. He's been shut down by ebay several times already, but he keeps coming back for more.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sure looks like paoutdoorsman and the verbiage in his listings is very familiar, too. He's resurfaced under several IDs since that original infamous ID, and as I recall he's usually followed the same pattern as this new guy: build up a few feedbacks for inexpensive items, start off with a few vintage packs, nothing major, and gradually amp it up till he's unloading the big ticket crap, er, I mean product. He's been shut down by ebay several times already, but he keeps coming back for more. >>




    Exactly right. Seems like the guy is always in a different town in central Pennsylvania each time he appears on ebay - he must move from apartment to apartment, one step ahead of those chasing
    after him.


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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    If South Florida Philly Fan is reading this, I would be forever grateful if you posted that picture of the stampeding medieval knights that you posted a long time ago as a illustration of a bunch of guys going off to lynch PA after getting burned by his scam auctions. That remains one of the funniest posts I've seen on this boards in almost four years.
  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    Brother, brother. Another guy in PA, selling vintage wax (with black backgrounds)....now what are the odds?

    Talk about a crapshoot! I'd rather bet on the superbowl this weekend then that stuff....
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And now with the bidder 1, bidder 2, etc crap...I don't think the winning bidder can be informed of the scam by any other ebayer (unless there is some way I haven't heard of yet) - this seemingly makes for a perfect scenario for this scam to work. Unless I guess enough people contact ebay and inform them of the "probability" that this guy has been a big scammer in the past, and to please quickly investigate him, and terminate his auctions. Next thing you know, Toniscards will be back again in full force knowing how easy it is to scam now.


    One of the scammers auctions. Ebay says it is protecting the bidders from the "bad guys" - what about a scammer seller bad guy?

    scammers auction bid history
  • 66Starfire66Starfire Posts: 135
    What am I missing? One account opened in 2000 & the other 2004.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What am I missing? One account opened in 2000 & the other 2004. >>




    That's what I was trying to tell ya. It was paoutdoorsman2004 who is the scammer, not paoutdoorsman.
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