Guess the grade?for 1884 & 1906 Indian Pennies *Both RED*

superior

I am a new member of PCGS and I may consider slabbing these. What do you think it will grade at? value? Thanks for the replies



1884 RED Indian Penny
LINK TO PICTURES

1906 RED Indian Penny (small spec on coin)

airplanenut

Welcome aboard. Unfortunately, I think both have been cleaned and would not be graded at PCGS.

superior

Really? that's weird maybe the pictures are not good. They do not cleaned in real-life. Outside of that what do you think the grade would be if they were not-cleaned?

Animalkeeper

Wow! Good eyeball, Airplanenut. The Indian Head cents are too small on my screen to see that. Bigger pics, please! I have a weakness for IHC...

Cam40

the `84 looks too orange and unnatural is why it looks cleaned or maybe dipped
other than that it looks unc
maybe bad lighting or lacking color correct imaging

the `06 looks more natural but the carbon spots could get a body bag
for enviromental damage or corrosion.
on second glance the `06 is also a bit orange.
sometimes thats a bad sign.

shylock

The 1906 is whizzed and that's not a "small spec", it's a gigantic spot

The 1884 can't be graded from that icon complete with drop shadow small pic.