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handyman
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Hi I just bought a huge group of PRe 1960 HOFers from the most random place you could ever think of. I bought about 800-900 HOFers from the 50-60s and about 50 of them are in Nm-Mt to Mint condition. I have one that I think may grade a 10 and its of a very tough card. Its a 1960 Harmon Killebrew, 700 graded with only 8 9's and no 10's. I want to post a pic on here to get yalls opinion but I dont know how. Can I email it to someone on these boards and they can post it for me?? If yall want Ill send other cards as well. It was a very nice group of cards and I only paid about 1.50 each. Including Mays, Arron, Mantle, Clemente and all the big names.
Thanks for the help
mjplays@yahoo.com
Thanks for the help
mjplays@yahoo.com
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It will take you less than 30-minutes to get er done.
Then you will know how, forever.
If ya having tek problems - in the short run, if ya email me the card, I'll be glad to post it for ya.
mike
handyman, a very nice Killer indeed, great centering - but I think tiny touches in the upper and lower left corners, and lower right would not result in a 10? If a 10 is to be truly "mint". Regardless, looks like a good candidate for grading. Good luck and sounds like a good deal!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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I grade it a 7. 3 corners show wear and the edges are rough. Excellent centering, though.
and I have more if you want to see some more pics. What do yall think they will grade
How did you stumble on these?
congrats. I like them
You made the buy of the century!
But, to start with - to be honest - I think the 60T Harmon is probably a 6 - tops a 7. The lower left corner is very soft - missing some of the white outer layer.
But, overall these are beauties! Some look pretty darn good. If ya do a sub - I'll be looking forward to the results.
Thanx for sharing
mike
Ill post more pics as I go through them.
The Harmon looks worse on the scan than it does in person. Honestly when I set it next to the YA tittle which looks nm-mt to Mint it kills it. Something with the scan bc Ive looked at it with a loop and compared it to several of my 1960's 9s and it kills all of them. Bad scan I think, Ill try it again I think.
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and I have more if you want to see some more pics. What do yall think they will grade >>
I think they will all grade a 7, except for the Tittle (8), Csonka (8), Kluszewski/Williams (6).
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My opinion: Harridge/Giles (7), Clemente (3), Matthews (5), Shoendienst (6), Kaline/Maxwell (6), Aparicio (7), Ringo (8-9)
Those all look NM to me, with the exception of the Tittle (which looks like a blazer) and the Csonka (which look NM-MT). In any case, I think you did quite well for $1000.
All the mantles are 3s and I only got 2
Some of these look close to nines I think
Well worth the price.
Slabbed, they equal an ongoing EBAY venture
for a long time.
Good buy.
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All the mantles are 3s and I only got 2
Some of these look close to nines I think >>
Perhaps the Hal Smith could get a 9, but the Keystone Combo is held back by the centering. Either a 7 or an 8 with an OC qualifier. The other 4 cards... between 6 and 7.
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It is not possible to grade cards from a scan.
But, PSA is VERY strict.
<< <i>yea I know what centering does to cards, Ive been getting cards graded for 8 years now. Im mainly talking about the Csonka,Tittle, Killebrew you have to see it in person, and all the others that are centered well. The hal smith there are 6 of them and that was the worst one. 5s are just too low for these cards. >>
The Clemente and the Matthews you posted earlier are the only cards I've seen so far that would probably grade a 5 or less.
<< <i>What do you think is wrong with the blanda? Dead centered with sharp corners. I think my scanner just sucks. >>
It is definately centered well. I'd give the centering a 9, the color/gloss an 8 (hard to tell from a scan), but the corners look touched from the scan. I know it could be the scan (you would know). Do the corners look sharp in person, and not like the scan? If the corners are razors, then the centering and everything else should put it nicely in an 8 or 9 holder.
Also, some of the cardsavers have a small amount of plastic residue that sticks to the card corners when you put them in, and makes the bottom corners *appear* to have some wear when they actually don't. That could be it.
Anyone need any cards from 1958-1969 HOFers I have most from that era?
On would say a card looks like a 10 when it looks like a 7
Sorry
Brain dead
<< <i>Yea Im really looking at all of them harder now once I saw the scan. And the cards are nothing like what they look like in the scans. The clemente and mathews i know are 3s, but the Harmon suprises me the most. I dont have bad eyes, Im only 25 but damn the scans look bad. I would say a card looks like a 10 when it looks like a 7. I know better. Ill post them once they are all graded and we will see how it goes.
Anyone need any cards from 1958-1969 HOFers I have most from that era? >>
Well, no matter what they grade, some will have a premium because they are centered so well. I'm a stickler for centering even more so than corners. Good centering can really bring a card's grade up, while bad centering can turn the mintiest, pack-fresh card and render it mid-grade. I have trouble getting my scanner to scan cards sometimes--I manage to get it working good when I play with the settings. Have you tried scanning with the lid open?
<< <i>Yea Im really looking at all of them harder now once I saw the scan. And the cards are nothing like what they look like in the scans. The clemente and mathews i know are 3s, but the Harmon suprises me the most. I dont have bad eyes, Im only 25 but damn the scans look bad. I would say a card looks like a 10 when it looks like a 7. I know better. Ill post them once they are all graded and we will see how it goes.
Anyone need any cards from 1958-1969 HOFers I have most from that era? >>
We've seen this before. Someone came on here a while ago with scans of what he swore was a dead mint '63 Fleer Checklist, and we all tried to politely tell him that the card was at best a 7. Then he gets it graded and it comes back a 9. Although it's hard to believe, sometimes the scanner does lie- and lies badly!
That collection is incredible for what you paid! Fer sure.
But - again - on the 60T Harmon - here's a blowup of the lower left corner - it's soft - and appearing to be missing some of the outer white veneer.
That's how it appears anyway. Some of the others are scary nice. If ya want to scan it larger and just post that corner - maybe I'm interpreting what I see wrong - but that's the way it looks.
Thanx for sharing,
This is the "find" of the year!!!
mike
<< <i>Opened the lid, good call. Looks much different >>
handyman
They don't even look like the same cards!
Have ya looked at them with a 5 or 10x loupe?
mike
They don't even look like the same cards!
Have ya looked at them with a 5 or 10x loupe?
mike
Yea, thats why I think none of these look like 5's and the killebrew is sharp.. I have 9's and its equal to all of them.
If you want to see new scans of any of these I think i have it down now.
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All things are possible.
Between 7 and 9, if there are no tiny surface wrinkles.
BUT, nobody can grade cards even by the best scans.
Send them in and then we will all know for sure.
I would slab as many as possible, regardless of condition.
They will all be saleable on EBAY.
This is what I think a 5 should be..
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I do not think it will make it.
For the people that said they were 5s.
Not saying you did,
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
Dave
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)