1837 Feuchtwanger's Cent: What do you think PCGS will grade it?

NumisOxide · January 19, 2007 6:54AM

I won this off an EBAY auction during mid-December. I'm debated now whether or not to send it off to PCGS in another week or so.

Its a nice lusterous example of this cool token. I really like the die flow lines on these pieces and I've noticed that even in lower grades these lines are visible on the obverse because the obverse is struck in such high relief.

Seeking opinions on the grade and the coin? I'll post my grading opinion later on.

Hard times token collectors, feel free to attribute it, even, though I already know the variety. Enjoy!

My pics

Sellers Pics

greghansen · January 19, 2007 7:17AM

I'm going to go AU55 with the grade. I've only owned one of these in my life so I've never done any grading of them.

ColonialCoinUnion · January 19, 2007 7:20AM

Sought.

NumisOxide · January 19, 2007 7:23AM

<< Sought. >>

Fixed, my mistake.

ColonialCoinUnion · January 19, 2007 8:26AM

Looks like a very handsome 55 to me.

seemyauction · January 19, 2007 8:31AM

Wow I like your photos a lot more.....Very interesting coin that I know nothing about......What type of metal?

AL

STONE · January 19, 2007 8:53AM

Exquisite

NumisOxide · January 19, 2007 8:53AM

<< Wow I like your photos a lot more.....Very interesting coin that I know nothing about......What type of metal? >>

The metal composition is German silver which is a copper-zinc, nickel alloy.

NumisOxide · January 19, 2007 10:16AM

<< Very interesting coin that I know nothing about >>

Oh, yeah for those who are interested about the history of these tokens. Refer to this PCGS article: PCGS to Grade and Authenticate Feuchtwanger Coinage. It gives you some basic insight about them.

Regulated · January 19, 2007 10:24AM

It looks 63 - the centers of these are never fully struck and lustrous.

greghansen · January 19, 2007 10:27AM

...and for those who just want to know how to pronounce it correctly, go here and click on the little speaker icon:

Mirriam-Webster dictionary entry for Feuchtwanger

123cents · January 19, 2007 11:51AM

It look like a uncirculated example to me. I'll say MS-62.

NumisOxide · January 19, 2007 1:35PM

<< It looks 63 - the centers of these are never fully struck and lustrous. >>

Interesting point, I remember reading about that.

NumisOxide · January 20, 2007 1:07AM

NumisOxide · January 20, 2007 9:39AM

I would appreciate some more grading opinions on this example, please. Take a shot at it!

JRocco · January 20, 2007 10:53AM

I will agree that I think this is a MS coin. I see no breaks in the luster. Take a glass and look at those high points to see if there is any rub there----if there is it would look like a beehive of tiny scratches going in all different directions, if it is as clean and flat as these pics are showing me--its a nice MS piece.
Good luck and nice coin.

RichieURich · January 20, 2007 12:54PM

I'd guess AU-55, but I could be wrong, I see very few of these. Much nicer than the ones I do see usually.

NumisOxide · January 21, 2007 8:10AM

Thanks for the opinions, I'll be sending it off to PCGS in another week or so and will give you guys an update.

Wish me luck!

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 21, 2007 9:03AM

MS64

BlindedByEgo · July 22, 2008 2:52AM

How did this one work out, John?

millennium · July 22, 2008 3:33AM

Not to steal a thread....but what do you think this would grade?

coinsarefun · July 22, 2008 3:45AM

<< It looks 63 - the centers of these are never fully struck and lustrous. >>

I Agree, very nice. Love the flow lines!!

Stefanie

NumisOxide · July 22, 2008 4:12AM

<< How did this one work out, John? >>

You know, I didn't send her in yet.

I gotta go do that!

holeinone1972 · July 22, 2008 4:13AM

<< 

<< How did this one work out, John? >>

You know, I didn't send her in yet.

I gotta go do that! >>

ur a TEASE!

greghansen · July 22, 2008 9:53AM

I can't believe I gave that an AU55 a year and a half ago. I've gotten a lot more liberal in the past 18 months. I think it is AT LEAST an MS63. There doesn't appear to be any 'chitter-chatter' in the fields, so I agree with the others that it is a strike issue only. The die flow lines seem unimpaired which cause me now to think it is clearly mint state. Good luck and hopefully we'll learn what PCGS thinks at some point in the future.

coindeuce · July 22, 2008 11:21AM

<< 

<< Very interesting coin that I know nothing about >>

Oh, yeah for those who are interested about the history of these tokens. Refer to this PCGS article: PCGS to Grade and Authenticate Feuchtwanger Coinage. It gives you some basic insight about them.

>>

I succeeded a coin dealer who is a native of Dresden, and even she doesn't pronounce "Foyktvonger" in her very German accent.

1837 Feuchtwanger's Cent: What do you think PCGS will grade it?

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