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biggest profit vs. biggest loss

lets hear how some of you guys made out on your best deals, i.e. biggest profit versus some of the worst deals, i.e. biggest loss. not necessarily actually having to sell something though. for example, bought a t206 plank in psa for $10,000 but kept it, would certainly count. lets hear them. since i am a dealer also, i dont feel it would be right for me to mention my best gain, but i will mention some losses. first which comes to mind is the ton of barry bonds product i stocked up on 2 years ago. still have it and it lost about 50%+. in this group are hundreds of various individual rcs as well as a few hundred wax boxes, i.e. 1987 fleer rack cases, 86 topps traded sets. has to be about $10k loss here. anyone else want to share?

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  • artistlostartistlost Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭
    heard about a young Phillies prospect coming up to replace the injured Thome. Saw that he had an autographed rookie and thought heck...why not. I bought a copy of it for $20. As you already know it was Ryan Howard and the card was a 2003 Bowman's Best Auto RC. I have had it since graded a PSA 9 MINT and it's value is booking at over $1000 graded 9 (raw it's $800) right now. It fits nicely into my rookie card collection of 1960-present stars.
    baseball & hockey junkie

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    NHL hall of fame rookies
  • Ladder7Ladder7 Posts: 1,221
    I disagree with her, but my wife says, "All your purchases are dumb."
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    thats so funny. my girl says the same thing!
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coho

    Any wax that I bought around 1992 that I still have unopened - 92TSC e.g. - probably paid 55 bucks for a box and now? 10? I have about 10 boxes.

    91TSC - one box - paid like 125$ for it - now? 10?

    Stuff like that.

    Bought a Carlton RC at the National - missed someone used a little whiteout on it. Loss - 450$.

    Bought a T3 for 800$ from Superior in 1992 - came back trimmed. Loss - not sure - depends on what someone would pay for an authentic?

    We've talked about "best buys" - so altho I don't sell - I would guess a good buy falls into your concept of profit?

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    1994 National - Greg Manning Auctions - placed minimum bid of 550$ I believe. Now? Depends on what kind of day - I would guess like 3-4K?

    I got a 75T mini Ryan #500 for a trade of some space on a table at a small show - it's a 9. Value? I don't know. 4-500$?

    I got a 61F Bkb #46IA Baylor for 30$ at Rotman - came back a 9 - value? 1K?

    Those are some for me.
    mike
    Mike
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a terrific '32 US Caramel Cochrane Mike! Sad to say I've not got any '32 Caramels. One day.
  • I don't deal with the spendy stuff but did buy a handful of Frank Thomas 1990 Leaf rookies raw off the other venue for around $10 a piece when he was just heating up last season. I paid close attention to centering in the scans as that is the primary flaw for that particular card. Four looked gem and were sent to BGS while I relisted the others. I probably made my money back on the relisted ones. I got two 9's and two 9.5's on the other four. One of the gems was a straight 9.5 while the other had a 10 sub on the centering. The gems went for $100 and $150 respectively as BINs. When taking into account the grading fee, that makes about a 500% profit for the first and a 750% profit on the second. The other two 9's were just over break even. This is probably small change compared to others but I was happy nevertheless since just about all my collecting money must come from selling something else. The graders are looking at my potential gem Topps Clemens rookie I purchased at a show last fall for $12. If that one comes back a gem then the profit would be in the 2000% range. Now if I only had a steady diet of gradable rookie cards I could pay down those student loans real quick.
    "One you start thinking you're the best then you might as well quit because you wont get any better" - Dale Earnhardt
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    paid $500 in 1991 for a "RARE" wax box of UD French High # hockey. Last time I looked there was one on E-bay for $8. What a moron to buy that crap. Almost any wax purchase from that era was a mistake.

  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    My 51 Bowman Mantle back in the early 80s $300 of course its not for sale.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • CubbyCubby Posts: 2,096
    What is "profit"??


    BTW: Cubby=Cub Fan
  • I collected baseball card when I was in high school in the early eighties up until the early 90's. I really started buying in quantity from about 84-89. I was fortunate to have been in the position of needing to buy a primary residence in 1991 and sold most of my unopened material in the year before to come up with my downpayment funds. I had various factory cases of sets like 85 Fleer factory set case, 1986 Fleer factory set case as well as, boxes of wax packs of 87 Fleer baseball, 85 Topps, 86 Donruss....and the like. I got enough to get into the house I'm in now....no dream home, but a home non the less. Prices were at the peak or close and I am glad to have had the fun of collecting the stuff and making a good profit on it. I think I sold about $15K worth of stuff in all.....and still have a lot of loose stuff around. I wish I had bothered to sell all the single loose hot rookies of the time off as well, but it looked like it was too much a hassle, whereas the unopened stuff was just easy as no grading was needed.
    Sheldon
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    Biggest profit on one card was $6600 on a '55 Bowman Mays 9.
    Biggest loss on one card was $4400 on a '54 Ted Williams.
    Had some $1500 losses on a couple of cards too.

    On a wax box, biggest profit : yet to be determined but could reach $2000 (I'm holding this one still), but so far it's $500
    Biggest loss on a Wax box : $150 .

    So far I'm doing okay......... hey?

  • Biggest Profit:

    Bought a Miguel Tejada game used bat on eBay for $54. I resold it a couple weeks later for $164


    Biggest Loss:
    I had an A-Rod patch card with the entire Rangers logo in it. If I were to have sold it a couple years ago when cards were a hot thing, I would've made atleast $100 on it. But everyone now thinks that all sick patches are fake and it sold for $12.

    Another loss:
    Just a couple months ago I sold a lot of 61 serial numbered cards, total bv was about $300 I think. It had cards numbered as low as 21 in it. The entire lot sold for $12.50
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just a couple months ago I sold a lot of 61 serial numbered cards, total bv was about $300 I think. It had cards numbered as low as 21 in it. The entire lot sold for $12.50 >>


    Kyle

    It sure seems that all those "limited" cards and GU cards have reached diminished returns - I guess it's time for the card companies to come up with something new?

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    I could say it's time to go back to basics - but that ship's sailed and it's name is Titanic.

    mike
    Mike
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    Bought a BVG 4.5 1954 Willie Mays card because of the centering....was listed 8.5 but after measuring its 50/50 front and back. I thought at the time, being a modern collector, that it was overall a piece of dong dung as far as condition ( i was used to 9-10's of modern cards). Later after collecting many vintage cards in different grades...i took a look at it...and thought it was a 6. I cracked it and it looked even better....sent it in...it came back a 7. Price was 180 for the card, 10 bucks for the grading....190 for a psa 7 50/50 centered 1954 willie mays aint bad!!

    Loth


  • << <i>heard about a young Phillies prospect coming up to replace the injured Thome. Saw that he had an autographed rookie and thought heck...why not. I bought a copy of it for $20. As you already know it was Ryan Howard and the card was a 2003 Bowman's Best Auto RC. I have had it since graded a PSA 9 MINT and it's value is booking at over $1000 graded 9 (raw it's $800) right now. It fits nicely into my rookie card collection of 1960-present stars. >>




    Very nice

    I bought 15 for 10 a piece......

    All have been sold already of course

    Also ryan howards USA auto /375

    was paying 20-25 a pop had about 8


    they all sold 300ish.



    And last but not least homer bailey, was buying gold refs for 60-80... they grab like 300 now.

    As far as loss: CODY ALLEN don't ask me how many i had of him..


    Also dwyane wade spx's i had 25 and sold them for 100 a pop. I only paid 50 per but the amount i technically lost yikes.
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    My biggest loss came from every single box/set/case I bought from 1987-1990. Couldn't even give the stuff away (plus shipping) on Ebay so I donated it all but could only realistically claim deductions far less than what I paid. These include a case of 89 Topps and 20 boxes of 88 Topps Big ($10-15 a box). I was lucky to get $0.99 for three boxes.

    As far as single cards, I don't flip cards because I everything I buy/bought was for the sets I was working on. But since I started and stopped working on 5-6 vintage sets in the past few years, making a little on some, a losing a little on others. The biggest profit margin on a card was a 1963 Keough PSA 8 that I bought raw for $4.05 from Mick and sold for $60 and a 1963 Kline, bought for $2.98, sold for $40. As far as graded, I bought a 1949 Bowman Fitzgerald PSA 7 for $26 and sold for $114 to Don Spence because it was the last card he needed to complete his Master Set.

    On the other end of the scale, I try not to lose too much but buying 1963 PSA 8s for $18-20 and then selling them for $6 was not fun. Dollar-wise, some of the 1961 Topps All-Stars in PSA 8 sold for much less than what I paid solely because I went to a dealer site and paid a premium for them. But then again, some of the other cards in that set sold for over twice what I paid.
  • Tedw9Tedw9 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    My biggest loss? All the freaking money I dumped into new stuff in the early 90's. I got bit by the Shaq RC collecting bug and bought pack after pack at $5-10 per pack. I dread to think of what I spent.

    Oh, and this one just came to mind. I purchased from a local dealer a UDA Larry Bird autographed retirement newspaper. I paid like $250 for it. When I sold it I got around $25.

    I've always been fairly lucky making a profit. A few that come to mind, some involve trades. I was able to trade a Curtis Martin Classic autograph for a 1958 Johnny Unitas, 1982 Larry Bird and a few other cards. I traded a few of those, kept the Bird and Unitas and got about 35 different Batter Up cards and 65-70 1959 Ted Williams Fleer cards. I ended up selling all the Batter Ups and Fleer cards for about $300 a few years ago. And when I listed the Batter Up cards on ebay, some fool wrote me and told me that I was selling cards that had creases and cuts in them, that I was a scam artist! Ummmm....those cards were made to be bent in the middle and stood up.

    When the Patriots won the first SB, McDonalds came out with commerative plasitc cups that were free with a Super Size meal. I got 4 of them, sold 2 for $25 each.

    And a few years back CBS Sportsline was giving away items with accumulated points. You got a point for each page view. About every 10 days, I was able to get a Topps Tiger Woods Club Tiger card and then turn around and sold them on Ebay for $45-50 apiece. They didn't cost me a penny, and I was able to get a crap load of them bewteen myself and my wife. I sold them all except for one which I still have.
    Looking for Carl Willey items.
  • My biggest loss will probably end up being selling all my Jennifer Hudson Auto's and Gu's I pulled from a case for next to nothing.

    Well, that and the fact I invested in Jamaal Magloire as being a potential NBA star and bought several SPX RC's.
  • mealewormmealeworm Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭
    Biggest loses are all PSA 10's I bought of 80's players that were low pops at the time and now sell for under $20. The vending cases of 86-88 topps(still have one 86). The best so far has been a raw 57 Dean Stone that graded PSA 9, sold for $900 plus I was given his 8 for shipping. It was 1 of 2 at the time now there are 3. Still my best $$$ yet.

    Another super BIG LOSE is I misplaced alot of stars from the 54-58 topps sets that my brother and me owned. I have found everything except two 54 Banks cards that were both ex-mt/nm. I have graded almost all the stars from the 54 set and all have been 6's with Williams 250 card being the only 5. I have since moved twice and havent found them yet. I remember having them in top loaders and always looking at them in my office. My Dad loved Ernie Banks and I kept those two cards seperate from all the other cards and now look. image
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    1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
    Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
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