1902 1/2d Low Tide

coinkat · January 14, 2007 1:29AM

Okay British copper experts... is this tougher than the Low Tide 1d?

any thoughts?

Gazza · January 14, 2007 1:42AM

You don't seem to see them on ebay so often as the 1/2d is not so well known but I don't think they are too hard to find.

spinaker2000 · January 14, 2007 2:32AM

I still need one for my set. They don't show up often in unc rb-red, and when they do they are expensive. Pretty much the key variety of the series. Find me one too!!

Gazza · January 14, 2007 3:00AM

Here's one

Gazza · January 14, 2007 3:02AM

and another

coinkat · January 14, 2007 5:33AM

Well the 1/2d Low Tide is an R4 and the 1d is an N so it seems that it is not even close... the 1/2d is more difficult to get.

spinaker2000 · January 14, 2007 5:50AM

looks like I may never get one at those prices either. May have to settle on a VF bn.

coinkat · January 14, 2007 8:29AM

I bought one recently and really did not know how tough it is... I have had the view that the 1902 1d is a bit overrated in terms of rarity... perhaps it is an issue with collector demand.

wybrit · January 14, 2007 11:58AM

I sniped one a couple of years ago and in 60 seconds received an email begging me to sell it. The 1/2 d is very tough to find. Those two examples aren't that stellar.

I agree that the 1d is a highly overrated piece. I have often wondered why the 1d commands a higher or comparable price. Apparently the new Spink has corrected that anomaly (though I have yet to get a copy).

It seems to me that halfpennies for many dates in the bronze series are tougher to find than for the pennies, with notable exceptions, of course.

7Jaguars · January 14, 2007 1:16PM

Still about demand and pennies are whereas halfpennies just don't have it! I agree with the statements but the 1/2d Low Tide IS available as has been said.

RareBronzeCollector · January 14, 2007 11:15PM

<< Still about demand and pennies are whereas halfpennies just don't have it! I agree with the statements but the 1/2d Low Tide IS available as has been said. >>

I think that you are spot on with the point that you make about the demand..... Pennies and Farthings have always been the more popular series and therefore have always performed well and been in demand..... For some reason, Half-pennies have generally been a second class series.......

There have been MANY more new discoveries in the half penny series in recent years, than in either of the penny or farthing series, primarily due to the lack of attention paid to the series in the past... Although collectors are paying more attention to the halfpenny series now, it is still ranked in popularity behind the pennies and farthings....

Iain Darcott's series (Coin News, 2004 April, May, June?), on half pennies, espousing his research and sharing it with the collecting community, has been somewhat of a bible for me, as it lists MANY die combinations and varieties not listed in Freeman or Peck. More interesting is the fact that due to the renewed interest in half-pennies that this series created, even more new varieties and die combinations have been discovered since his research and publication.

My personal preference is the pennies, followed by the half pennies.... And although I have a complete Freeman variety collection of farthings, I have never been overly enamored with them.... Nothing really to do with the coins themselves, just that they are small and I have difficulty seeing all the varieties even with a high powered magnifier.... I prefer a more substantial coin, such as the penny or half penny......

I do see a trend now of more collectors focusing on the half penny series.. Whether that is because it is perceived as a relatively untouched area, because it is comparably less expensive, or due to genuine interest has yet to be established, but with so many fresh eyes examining the series, it can only benefit the hobby....

Thanks

7Jaguars · January 15, 2007 3:46AM

RBC - You are spot on as well! I do like the large format copper farthings and like to think of them as copper sovs as the obv. dies were evidently identical. I have been looking long and hard for several of the 1/2d's and not done too well. The Cooke sale of several years ago had some wonderful pieces....Anyway, keep up the good work and maybe post a pic here or there if you have the chance.

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 3:58AM

<< RBC - You are spot on as well! I do like the large format copper farthings and like to think of them as copper sovs as the obv. dies were evidently identical. I have been looking long and hard for several of the 1/2d's and not done too well. The Cooke sale of several years ago had some wonderful pieces....Anyway, keep up the good work and maybe post a pic here or there if you have the chance. >>

Thanks for that....

anything in particular that you would like to see???

7Jaguars · January 15, 2007 5:02AM

Hey, how about a '74 or '71. Do you have any of the large format copper? An 1845 would be nice as well. Wybrit shows a very nice '69 and I need to get a camera.

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 5:36AM

Here are some pics of the scarce OBVERSE 8 1874 F-313.....

If anyone needs an F-314 obverse 8, I have 2 lower grade specimens for sale or trade.....

I'll post some more later....

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 5:44AM

1874 F-317

7Jaguars · January 15, 2007 6:25AM

Nice, holding out for any in mint tho. What camera setup do you use?

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 6:33AM

Here is a scarce 1878 WIDE date reverse N, paired with an Obverse 14, UNLISTED in FREEMAN.......

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 6:56AM

2 different varieties of the RARE F-288A die letter C... One with the C touching the linear circle. and one with the C near to the linear circle...

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 6:57AM

2 different varieties of the RARE F-290A die letter A... One with the A closer to the lighthouse and one with the C near to the linear circle...

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 6:58AM

A specimen of the EXTREMELY RARE 1862 Die letter A to the RIGHT of the lighthouse.. UNLISTED in FREEMAN

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 7:00AM

A specimen of the VERY RARE 1862 F-288 Die letter B......

7Jaguars · January 15, 2007 7:01AM

RBC on a roll, very nice & esp the lettered specimens!

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 7:08AM

1839 Proof only Half Penny

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 7:09AM

1797 Pattern Cartwheel Half-Penny

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 7:17AM

1860 F-260B, Peck 1752
Bronzed Proof, R-19
Obverse 1*

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 9:23AM

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 9:24AM

Any other requests????

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 9:24AM

maybe the moderator can set up a reference gallery for images????

farthing · January 15, 2007 9:27AM

That 1839 proof is a beauty!

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 10:15AM

Thanks,
It matches well with my 1839 penny

7Jaguars · January 15, 2007 11:35AM

Hey, can you post some pics of the '39 and '53 proof pennies? I really need to get a camera and catch up with this technology - I really ought to ASAP.

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 1:55PM

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 1:59PM

1839 Proof Only Penny

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 2:00PM

1860 Copper Penny... Not the prettiest, but it's MINE......

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 2:00PM

RareBronzeCollector · January 15, 2007 2:01PM

1853 Peck-1503 ... Closer Colon....

See comparison....

SYRACUSIAN · January 16, 2007 5:03AM

Did you ask NGC to reholder this one? The label reads P-1751 in the first photo.

You have some rare pieces there.

RareBronzeCollector · January 16, 2007 5:27AM

<<

Did you ask NGC to reholder this one? The label reads P-1751 in the first photo.

You have some rare pieces there.

>>

Hi Dimitri,

Good looking out... I pasted in the old label....
This is the coin that I was telling you about at lunch that day..... NGC had mis-attributed it, and I had left it for correction at the NY Invitational last year.....

It is INDEED a Peck-1752, F-260B, OBVERSE 1*

Thanks,

Hope you had a good flight home......

SYRACUSIAN · January 16, 2007 5:46AM

Right Gary, now I remember.

Thanks, I had a very good flight back home, and I did not take my coins out during the flight, following spinaker's wise advise.

I have them all in front of me now though, on my desk at home.

Best regards and a very good night from Athens.

Hussulo · January 16, 2007 6:11AM

Some fantastic coins and great rarities RBC thanks for sharing them with us.

RareBronzeCollector · January 16, 2007 6:24AM

<< Some fantastic coins and great rarities RBC thanks for sharing them with us. >>

Thanks, and you're quite welcome

farthing · January 16, 2007 8:54AM

RBC - Do you have a 1860 TB/BB farthing?

RareBronzeCollector · January 16, 2007 8:59AM

<< RBC - Do you have a 1860 TB/BB farthing? >>

Yes, I have to take a picture of it though.........
I'll try to do it later......

RareBronzeCollector · January 16, 2007 1:39PM

<< RBC - Do you have a 1860 TB/BB farthing? >>

As requested.... Not the greatest, but it is a mule....

This is the obverse2/reverse 1 combination....

I understand that there is an obverse 3/reverse 1 combination that is not listed in Freeman, which I do not have.....

farthing · January 16, 2007 10:09PM

Still a nice example of the mule! The differences in the two borders is quite clear and obvious.

RareBronzeCollector · January 17, 2007 1:14AM

<< Still a nice example of the mule! The differences in the two borders is quite clear and obvious. >>

Exactly....My F-8 and F-9 are similar; clearly identifiable, but not choice.... But they are MINE!!!

1902 1/2d Low Tide

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