Anyone seen these 1986 Topps Cards?

Wabittwax

Lately I've been opening a ton of 1986 Topps Rack Packs and I got these 3 cards. I've seen blank backs before from 1980 Topps but I always assumed they were some kind of proof card. I've never pulled them from packs myself. Now obviously this means that a whole sheet didn't get the back done but I didn't get the rest of the sheet from the packs, only these 3. Does anyone know if these cards came from the same sheet? Do you think they were cards that weren't supposed to make it into packs? If a whole sheet didn't get printed, where's the rest of the sheet? Shouldn't I have gotten a bunch of them at once?

Also, what do you think would happen if I sent them to PSA? Would they grade them? If so, how would they label them and would something like that affect a master set?

Wabittwax

I was checking Ebay for Blank Backs and I did find this auction that looks pretty cool. Something like this auction is what I always figured that Blank Backs would come from so it puzzles me as to how I pulled them from Rack Packs.

mmsportscards

Steve,

I pulled a few blanks as well in 86 racks. They sell pretty well!

KalineFan

Before I anger anyone, let me just say that quite a number of years ago, a similar situation, though not the same year,
came up.

There were "uncut sheets" with multiple cards of superstars. I.E.-One sheet of 1989 (I don't remember exact year) SKYBOX
cards with multiple Michael Jordan cards. Another group with Wayne Gretzky cards and another group with (I can't actually
remember the star).

Much was discussed about these so-called "ROOKIE" and or multiple star cards. The overwhelming consensus was that these
cards were "MADE" by a private party making up the sheets. In other words, these sheets were not real.

The biggest reason and reasonable consensus on these multiple star cards was-Take the RIPKEN rookie for a good example.

1) First, and foremost, at the time of their original origin, it was rare that sheets were printed with the same card on them.
Most of the time when sheets are made up, they are made up of multiple players.

2) Second, when most of these were done (and again, the best example being a RIPKEN RC), companies would not even know
which ROOKIES would be the big seller-After all, If they knew in advance, what would be the point of printing other cards,
when they could just print this SURE-HOF'er in major quantities in mult-sheets in order to sell many more cards.

3) Third, Most sheets are printed with a minimum of 24-36 cards and with baseball it is more like 100+, especially when, by
1982, cards sets totaled well over 650 cards.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I am just telling you about previously discussions about these rare "MULTIPLE" player sheets
So, please, I am just revealing the facts of way back when in order to have a formal discussion about this, as I am definitely
interested to see what others have to say as well!

MY 2 cents worth!

Tony
KalineFan

KalineFan

I don't know where or what happened here, but I thought I was on the thread about the uncut sheet with 8 Cal Ripken Rookie cards (TOPPS).

So sorry.

Tony
KalineFan

Boopotts

Hi Steve,

My understanding is that PSA will not grade blankbacks--with the occasional exception of the '85 minis excepted.

BTW, I still have a 1987 Topps Tracy Jones blankback laying around. If you want to trade me the mint 1967 Seaver that I turned down for this card 20 years ago I'll be happy to work a deal!

yankeeno7

Those Ripkens are considered real blank backs because did not come from the original print runs. Not sure how those were released in that form or if someone else printed them up. Notice that the back is only missing the black writing and not entirely blank.

Blank backs are quite common, especially in the 70s and 80s. There are a few here and there from the 60s, but not many. I know the proof that came from the big Topps auction many years ago were all blank back. I got one for my own collection just to have...just a common player from 1964.

Blank backs came from all the venues...wax, rack, vending, cello. Only special collectors for that stuff.

You may be ok with Rose and Brett because of the player collectors who like to grab up the oddball stuff.

I have probably 60 or so blank backs from 1982 if anyone is interested!

TheMcgwireMuseum

<< <i>My understanding is that PSA will not grade blankbacks--with the occasional exception of the '85 minis excepted. >>



They will grade some blank backs. I think its if the card never had a version with a back printed. They grade the 1988 Star blank back promos, we even have one in the McGwire master set, and it indeed says 'blankback' on the flip

Boopotts

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<< <i>My understanding is that PSA will not grade blankbacks--with the occasional exception of the '85 minis excepted. >>



They will grade some blank backs. I think its if the card never had a version with a back printed. They grade the 1988 Star blank back promos, we even have one in the McGwire master set, and it indeed says 'blankback' on the flip >>



You're right, Jay- I misspoke. If the card was issued exclusively as a blankback they slab it; but if it was also issued with a back then they generally do not.

yankeeno7

I believe both SGC and GAI will grade blank backs

Wabittwax

Well, thanks for the info. I guess next time I list some cards, I'll throw these up and see what happens. I still have 4 more cases to open so maybe I'll find some more.

AlanAllen

To answer one of your questions, you can tell if these all came on the same sheet by finding copies with printed backs, and looking for the sheet designation right next to the copyright line. It will be in tiny print and will say A* or B* or... I don't know how many sheets were used in 1986, probably up to F*. If they match, they were on the same sheet.

Joe