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  • That is insane, considering 2001 Pujols Fleer Showcase Masterpiece 1/1 was BIN $3500 in 2005!!!!
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    LOL - my PSA 8 Joe Jackson is less than that!!! imageimage
    Wondo

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    Scary.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Wow, what I could buy for that kind of money!!
  • I believe the player purchased his own card.
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  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe the player purchased his own card. >>



    Nice catch - though it might be his mom! image
    Wondo

  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Cody who?
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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    I checked the buyers feedback and almost everything they have purchased is related to Cody somehow. I wish I had some Cody cards to sell image
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cody who? >>



    Banks!!
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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622
    i think the only one collecting this Cody character is the Cody Family.....kind of risky dont you think..if he flops in majors, he not only flops, but is out thousands and thousands of dollars due to worthless Cody cards....


    Prospecting People get it straight...their is not going to be another Pujols...these type of players come along once in 100 years....you got Ruth, Pujols, and it will be another 50 years before any prospect turns into the next Pujols...

    Prospectors, save your money and buy cards of established players, it is much better that way....

    believe me, i was a prospector in the 80's and all i have left from that time is 5000 Ron Jones cards worth $2.00 in total....
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    fandango,
    are saying that pujols will be the 2nd best offensive player in basball history? better than cobb, williams, mantle, mays, aaron, clemente, musial or even in the modern era a-rod?
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Prospecting People get it straight...their is not going to be another Pujols...these type of players come along once in 100 years....you got Ruth, Pujols, and it will be another 50 years before any prospect turns into the next Pujols... >>



    Why not mention players like Mantle, Mays, Aaron and such.

    While I agree Pujols is an excellent player, I say let him compile some more numbers and put more years under his belt before he is coronated as the next coming.

    You never know what can happen. Accident? Career changing injury?

    edited to not sound so harshimage
  • Actually, if it's Cody or his family collecting, where is the risk? I'm sure he got a nice signing bonus, and even if he just continues to make league minimum for a few years, he'll have plenty left over after buying up all of his cards.

    Whether he makes it or not, think of how cool it must be to not only have your own rookie card, but to have an awesome collection of 1:1's and low-population autos/relics of YOURSELF. If it were me, I'd think it was worth it. He can open up boxes of 2006 Bowman and find himself!

    Back in 1989, I had to take an eraser to Upper Deck cards just for that pleasure!
    Nolan Ryan & Edgar Martinez are my favorite players...
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  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    It might have been easier for Cody to just snatch one of those up while he was signing them. Probably would've been easier than trying to swallow the $20 shipping.
    Travis
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    what csoxfan said...who is cody?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shades of Brien Taylor.
  • dtsadtsa Posts: 235 ✭✭
    card is actually a flip. it sold for a grand a few weeks ago. WOW!
  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622


    << <i>fandango,
    are saying that pujols will be the 2nd best offensive player in basball history? better than cobb, williams, mantle, mays, aaron, clemente, musial or even in the modern era a-rod? >>




    yes, that is exactly what i am predicting for Pujols....the second greatest (may be the best) player of all time!

    he is already put 6 better seasons together than Mantle, Clemente, Musial.......Mays, Aaron, Williams, are just 5 more of the same years away....

    if you just look at Pujols Stats from his first 6 years, you cant help but say.."that is the best start of a career EVER"
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yes, that is exactly what i am predicting for Pujols....the second greatest (may be the best) player of all time!

    That is a rather lofty prediction at this stage in his career. After all, look what happened to Don mattingly who was also well on his way to becoming a lock for the HOF before injuries derailed his career. I also think it's very difficult to equate what Puljos has done offensively with the great hitters of the past, simply because offensive production as a whole has increased over the years due to bandbox ballparks, expansion, and many less than mediocre relievers on which great hitters like Puljos fatten their numbers. I don't think you can put him in the Ruth-Mays-Gehrig category just yet, is what I'm saying, though I do agree he is a special player.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    That's one expensive shiny card!

    Cody who? Oh, yeah the Cody that's going to
    hit 500 career homers and knock in 1500 runs.
    Check back in 15 years.

    Reality: his stats will look like Biff Pocoroba's.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,143 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>yes, that is exactly what i am predicting for Pujols....the second greatest (may be the best) player of all time!

    That is a rather lofty prediction at this stage in his career. After all, look what happened to Don mattingly who was also well on his way to becoming a lock for the HOF before injuries derailed his career. I also think it's very difficult to equate what Puljos has done offensively with the great hitters of the past, simply because offensive production as a whole has increased over the years due to bandbox ballparks, expansion, and many less than mediocre relievers on which great hitters like Puljos fatten their numbers. I don't think you can put him in the Ruth-Mays-Gehrig category just yet, is what I'm saying, though I do agree he is a special player. >>




    Grote15,

    With all due respect keep in mind that back in "the day", they didn't have specialist that would come in a throw 100 mph with a devastating splitter. Many pitchers pitched on 3 days rest and threw an 85 mph straight fastball and maybe a curve. Are you telling us that Albert Pujols would not put up those numbers years ago? I would venture to say that his numbers might be even better. Look at the numbers back in the 1920's and 1930's. Several guys hit .400 on many occassions. Are those not inflated numbers? Are you telling me that Pujols wouldn't hit .400 back then? With his plate coverage and plate discipline, I am very convinced that he would. I don't think that there is any doubt, Pujols is off to the best 6 year start in the history of baseball. Nobody has hit batted .300, hit 30 homeruns and had 100 rbi's in their first 2 seasons. Pujols has done it in his first 6.

    Just for kicks, I would like to see some comparisons of the top 4 or 5 best 6 year starts.

    Shane

  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622


    << <i>yes, that is exactly what i am predicting for Pujols....the second greatest (may be the best) player of all time!

    That is a rather lofty prediction at this stage in his career. After all, look what happened to Don mattingly who was also well on his way to becoming a lock for the HOF before injuries derailed his career. I also think it's very difficult to equate what Puljos has done offensively with the great hitters of the past, simply because offensive production as a whole has increased over the years due to bandbox ballparks, expansion, and many less than mediocre relievers on which great hitters like Puljos fatten their numbers. I don't think you can put him in the Ruth-Mays-Gehrig category just yet, is what I'm saying, though I do agree he is a special player. >>




    pitching specialization nullifies the hitter friendly conditions of today.......why do you think that there are no high .300 batting averages anymore, and there hasnt been a triple crown winner in 40 years? because it is tougher to dominate today then years ago....yes there may be more players with 30 or more HR's today, but HR are not the only tale....

    Batters years ago faced way easier pitching conditions....no relief pitchers so pitchers threw when they had no stuff left (which never happends today) and they threw more often (more dead arm)...that is why you see so many near .400 averages years ago but it is getting rarer and rarer with each passing year.....

    also. batter strikeouts have been constant for 100 years, yet pujols is one of the only sluggers to hit near as many HR's as strikeouts (HOward a joke when it comes to K's)....this alone should point towards Pujols greatness.......

    Strikeouts are KEy!!! If howards struck out 20 times less then he did, he would have had a few more RBI, and his team would have probably one a few more games and guess what....THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFSS WITH 1 EXTRA WIN!! HOW IS THAT THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER...ABSURD! Pujols even hit a HR in last week of year to win game for cardinals and ensure them a playoff spot....
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pitching specialization nullifies the hitter friendly conditions of today.......why do you think that there are no high .300 batting averages anymore, and there hasnt been a triple crown winner in 40 years? because it is tougher to dominate today then years ago....yes there may be more players with 30 or more HR's today, but HR are not the only tale....

    Batters years ago faced way easier pitching conditions....no relief pitchers so pitchers threw when they had no stuff left (which never happends today) and they threw more often (more dead arm)...that is why you see so many near .400 averages years ago but it is getting rarer and rarer with each passing year.....

    also. batter strikeouts have been constant for 100 years, yet pujols is one of the only sluggers to hit near as many HR's as strikeouts (HOward a joke when it comes to K's)....this alone should point towards Pujols greatness.......

    Strikeouts are KEy!!! If howards struck out 20 times less then he did, he would have had a few more RBI, and his team would have probably one a few more games and guess what....THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFSS WITH 1 EXTRA WIN!! HOW IS THAT THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER...ABSURD! Pujols even hit a HR in last week of year to win game for cardinals and ensure them a playoff spot....


    Sorry to burst your bubble, fandango, but much of what you claim here is just not true. The fact of the matter is that there are WAY MORE mediocre relievers in the league today against whom good hitters can pad their stats than there ever were in earlier decades like the 50s and 60s, due in large part to expansion and because of the expanded role of relief pitching in general over the past forty years. (Not to mention the bandbox ballparks being built these days in contrast to the cavernous parks of yesteryear.) In fact, batting averages in the 60s and 70s were, on average, LOWER than they have been over the last decade or so, so your claim that it is tougher for a hitter today and that there are no higher .300 batting averages today is, again, untrue. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. (look up batting leaders averages from the 60s and 70s and compare them to batting leader averages over the past 15 years and you'll see). More runs per game are being scored today than ever before, just look at the league ERA and you will see what I mean. I know skinpinch has already elaborated in great detail on many of these issues, so I want go into that deep detail here, but the truth is that hitting is in fact EASIER today than it was in earlier decades. Just look at the league ERA today and compare it to the league average back then and again, you will see what I'm talking about. An ERA of less than 3.00 used to be common among many good starting pitchers 40 years ago, now if you're ERA is under 4.00 you're doing a great job. Of course, some of this is due to the pitching mound being lowered at the end of the 60s but that's just another reason why hitting was more difficult during that time. Can you imagine a pitcher putting up an ERA of 1.12 like Bob Gibson did in 1968? Again, I'm not saying that Puljos isn't a terrific player, maybe even one of the all-time great players, but my points were that a) he hasn't played long enough to be placed in that category (just look at Mattingly's career to see why) and b) I don't think you can put him in the same category as Mays-Aaron-Ruth, etc. To do so at this point is way too premature.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>fandango,
    are saying that pujols will be the 2nd best offensive player in basball history? better than cobb, williams, mantle, mays, aaron, clemente, musial or even in the modern era a-rod? >>




    yes, that is exactly what i am predicting for Pujols....the second greatest (may be the best) player of all time!

    he is already put 6 better seasons together than Mantle, Clemente, Musial.......Mays, Aaron, Williams, are just 5 more of the same years away....

    if you just look at Pujols Stats from his first 6 years, you cant help but say.."that is the best start of a career EVER" >>



    *During the steroid/HGH/horse seemaan era

    Not making any accusations, just saying...
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • talk to us in another 10 years, fandango.
    Mark B.

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  • Grote5, good post.....but what i really was saying was that it is harder to DOMINATE now...yes the Averages are higher now, but the high consistency pujols has shown in his first 6 years has made me extrapolate his stats, amd yes he needs to do this for 10 more years, BUT if he DOES show the consistency he has shown his first 6 years, then he will then be considered a top three hitters of all time (ruth, Pujols, Williams)

    and to the allusion that pujols may be takign HGH.....if you know Pujols' biography and his background, you would understand it would be near impossible for Pujols to have taken enhancers...read this bio and you will see that drugs do not fit in the Pujols timeline....Steroid Users have SPIKES in their stats (McGwire batted .260.283. 233. 203, his fist 4 years with declining HR totals...he then started using stuff and his stats spiked.....Same for Baroid..he was very good, but then after his injury in 1995 he started juicing and his stats went nuts after that at an advanced age......

    Pujols has been a model of consistency since age 13..he has been a prodigy at EVERY LEVEL...

    he hit a 450ft hr as a 10th grader...........

    hes has always been the All star shortstop/#4 hitter at every level....

    he is A Natural as his father was a great baseball player in the DR.....

    at age 6, he knew he wanted to be a MLB player.....

    Once in 100 years a player like this comes along.....Vintage Collectors take note.....

    Before his freak injury, Pujols was on pace to Shatter the single season RBI and HR record!

    Look out NL pitchers 2007!!
  • did you read that bio yet?
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    all of those things may be true about his hitting process and i am sure you will disagree since you are one of his disciples, but pujols is becoming a real j.o. with his comments about other players, his treatment of the media and with the general public.

    1) his comment about glavine and ryan howard in which he gave a drive by apology
    2) his agent has instructed him that st. louis is too small for him and anything important should go through national media e.g. usa today, espn etc. his agent has said that when he does something locally like open his restaraunts the st. louis media should be notified to play it up for the locals though. he has been known to come up to a reporter who was minding his own business and said get the f**k out of my way for no reason.
    3) a friend of mine was at an auto dealership, pujols walks in and announces "i am telling you all right now, i am not talking to anyone or signing autographs" half the people didn't even know who he was.

    you can say i am making this up, but i am not. personality wise he is on the road to barry bondsville.
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